1 00:01:08,450 --> 00:00:18,950 [Music] 2 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:10,340 foreign 3 00:02:34,970 --> 00:01:44,690 [Music] 4 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:37,650 foreign 5 00:03:10,540 --> 00:02:51,000 [Music] 6 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:16,570 [Applause] 7 00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:25,910 [Music] 8 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,600 foreign 9 00:04:09,910 --> 00:03:58,750 [Music] 10 00:04:16,729 --> 00:04:13,309 tations friends and welcome back you are 11 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:16,739 watching true Seekers and uh I'm your 12 00:04:22,610 --> 00:04:18,560 host Stephen cambian 13 00:04:26,689 --> 00:04:22,620 back and ready to attack boy what a week 14 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:26,699 it has been the Dramarama is uh is 15 00:04:31,249 --> 00:04:29,280 really like too much so I thought 16 00:04:34,010 --> 00:04:31,259 tonight that we could do something fun 17 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:34,020 so I hope you all brought your time 18 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:37,620 travel Gear with you because we will be 19 00:04:45,790 --> 00:04:42,240 uh taking a time travel trip back to 20 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:45,800 December of 1995. 21 00:04:53,390 --> 00:04:49,500 uh interesting time uh where I can tell 22 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:53,400 you about that time zone is that O.J 23 00:04:58,730 --> 00:04:55,800 Simpson just got acquitted of the 24 00:05:00,590 --> 00:04:58,740 murders of his wife and boyfriend and 25 00:05:03,290 --> 00:05:00,600 her boyfriend 26 00:05:06,290 --> 00:05:03,300 um I I don't really recall that much 27 00:05:11,150 --> 00:05:06,300 else of historical or significant 28 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:11,160 importance at the time but uh I thought 29 00:05:17,689 --> 00:05:14,699 it this was very very interesting and I 30 00:05:20,450 --> 00:05:17,699 also thought uh this was interesting for 31 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:20,460 another reason uh 32 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:22,440 and that is 33 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:25,020 I have noticed something lately that 34 00:05:29,689 --> 00:05:27,840 maybe no one else noticed but I have and 35 00:05:34,730 --> 00:05:29,699 that is that 36 00:05:39,249 --> 00:05:34,740 some of these old uh pieces of 37 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:39,259 let's just call it UFO mythology 38 00:05:46,610 --> 00:05:43,500 history have been disappearing uh from 39 00:05:49,550 --> 00:05:46,620 the internet now first we got the 40 00:05:53,390 --> 00:05:49,560 Project Camelot YouTube channel getting 41 00:05:55,129 --> 00:05:53,400 nuked uh and and I'm not going to take a 42 00:05:56,330 --> 00:05:55,139 position on whether I believe that was 43 00:05:58,310 --> 00:05:56,340 uh 44 00:06:00,529 --> 00:05:58,320 appropriate or not 45 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:00,539 it still remains that all of those 46 00:06:05,629 --> 00:06:03,539 interviews are largely gone I think she 47 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:05,639 has most of them behind her paywall now 48 00:06:10,129 --> 00:06:08,160 or some of them or 49 00:06:12,529 --> 00:06:10,139 but you know you're talking about a huge 50 00:06:14,930 --> 00:06:12,539 history of the interviews all gone 51 00:06:16,370 --> 00:06:14,940 another thing that I have noticed lately 52 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:16,380 is that 53 00:06:22,490 --> 00:06:19,680 um there is it seems to be you know 54 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:22,500 let's let's not get conspiratorial here 55 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,479 but 56 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:27,360 there does appear to be 57 00:06:37,249 --> 00:06:32,689 I I don't even know how to describe it 58 00:06:40,249 --> 00:06:37,259 it appears to me at least uh that 59 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:40,259 there are 60 00:06:46,969 --> 00:06:44,340 pieces of this UFO Mythos and history 61 00:06:47,710 --> 00:06:46,979 that are just melting off of the 62 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:47,720 internet 63 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:52,319 just gone or uh 64 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,300 slowly disappearing 65 00:06:58,550 --> 00:06:56,400 one of the things that I noticed is that 66 00:07:01,390 --> 00:06:58,560 you used to be able to go on YouTube and 67 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:01,400 uh search for like George Knapp lectures 68 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:04,500 or something and get all of the talks 69 00:07:10,129 --> 00:07:07,259 that George Knapp ever gave at these UFO 70 00:07:12,590 --> 00:07:10,139 conferences all of those seem to be gone 71 00:07:15,170 --> 00:07:12,600 or nearly gone or just a lot harder to 72 00:07:16,909 --> 00:07:15,180 find maybe my Google Foo isn't that 73 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:16,919 great 74 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:18,900 um but every once in a while I come 75 00:07:24,770 --> 00:07:22,680 across this uh a strange piece of UFO 76 00:07:27,370 --> 00:07:24,780 mythology or history 77 00:07:30,290 --> 00:07:27,380 that it appears to be lost and tonight 78 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:30,300 we're going to be showing you a piece of 79 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:33,300 that lost history now some may say oh no 80 00:07:39,710 --> 00:07:36,720 that was on YouTube yeah uh it was uh 81 00:07:41,150 --> 00:07:39,720 and it was taken down recently and I 82 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:41,160 tracked this 83 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:45,440 to a very recent takedown of this video 84 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:49,919 uh it was there on YouTube up until and 85 00:07:53,990 --> 00:07:52,620 this is the conspiratorial part March 86 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:54,000 tonight 87 00:08:01,969 --> 00:07:57,840 uh of this year and uh there may be 88 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:01,979 other copies of it roaming around but I 89 00:08:07,850 --> 00:08:05,460 was able to get it through uh various 90 00:08:10,189 --> 00:08:07,860 methods that I use in these instances 91 00:08:12,890 --> 00:08:10,199 including way back machine and other 92 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:12,900 sites that allow you to delete or excuse 93 00:08:17,809 --> 00:08:15,599 me allow you to download once deleted 94 00:08:21,129 --> 00:08:17,819 videos from YouTube 95 00:08:24,589 --> 00:08:21,139 interesting that this one uh recently 96 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:24,599 melted off the internet and nobody 97 00:08:28,749 --> 00:08:27,240 really knows why why are all of these 98 00:08:32,050 --> 00:08:28,759 pieces of History 99 00:08:36,969 --> 00:08:32,060 melting off of the internet now 100 00:08:40,130 --> 00:08:36,979 in some ways the cynical or uh 101 00:08:41,690 --> 00:08:40,140 conspiratorial nature or suspicious 102 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,700 nature that's a better word the 103 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:44,000 suspicious suspicious nature in me 104 00:08:47,870 --> 00:08:45,839 believes that some of the people 105 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:47,880 involved here want these things gone 106 00:08:54,350 --> 00:08:50,940 from the internet because this is their 107 00:08:56,329 --> 00:08:54,360 history of Lies many of them or just 108 00:08:58,670 --> 00:08:56,339 whatever they were pushing or talking 109 00:09:01,550 --> 00:08:58,680 about over the years they don't really 110 00:09:04,970 --> 00:09:01,560 want to remind people of in my opinion 111 00:09:07,449 --> 00:09:04,980 of just how many lies they have pushed 112 00:09:10,670 --> 00:09:07,459 or fake stories they have pushed or 113 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:10,680 profiteering Adventures they have been 114 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,440 on in the land of UFO when we get to 115 00:09:18,110 --> 00:09:15,839 George Knapp we have played some clips 116 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:18,120 and I'm aware of at least one person 117 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:21,240 that has an entire Archive of Georgian 118 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:22,500 app stuff 119 00:09:27,470 --> 00:09:24,360 we got to negotiate to get all that 120 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:27,480 because when we when we 121 00:09:31,730 --> 00:09:30,060 go back in history and we see what 122 00:09:34,610 --> 00:09:31,740 people like George Knapp were talking 123 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:34,620 about this guy was telling stories about 124 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:37,500 dogs smoking at Skinwalker Ranch like 125 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:42,180 dogmen men with heads and dogs smoking 126 00:09:46,850 --> 00:09:43,920 at Skinwalker Ranch 127 00:09:49,790 --> 00:09:46,860 or uh you know other absolutely 128 00:09:52,190 --> 00:09:49,800 ridiculous weird stories with no basis 129 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:52,200 in reality no evidence just trust me 130 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:54,480 dude somebody told me this it's a great 131 00:09:59,030 --> 00:09:55,860 story 132 00:10:02,210 --> 00:09:59,040 and I think that may be behind 133 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:02,220 um what I believe is a conscious effort 134 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:07,260 by some people within this space to uh 135 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:10,560 you know wipe the Slate clean so that 136 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:13,200 people are not aware of what it is they 137 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,660 used to be selling they want people 138 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:17,279 focused on what they're selling now 139 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:20,040 right and I guess 140 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:23,279 in 28 years or more they'll want the 141 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,540 stuff they're talking about right now 142 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:26,399 erased from the internet 143 00:10:30,530 --> 00:10:28,560 but I think it's important that we look 144 00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:30,540 at these conspiracy Land characters 145 00:10:37,250 --> 00:10:33,600 through the lens of time and see 146 00:10:39,410 --> 00:10:37,260 what it is they were getting paid money 147 00:10:42,050 --> 00:10:39,420 to talk about and this is one of those 148 00:10:45,650 --> 00:10:42,060 instances interestingly most people 149 00:10:48,530 --> 00:10:45,660 don't know that uh Bob Lazar had a radio 150 00:10:50,090 --> 00:10:48,540 show on Los in Las Vegas for a short 151 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:50,100 time 152 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:52,740 and he did this with Gene huff and John 153 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:56,220 Lear for those unaware most of you may 154 00:11:02,810 --> 00:10:59,519 be aware of John Lear people have called 155 00:11:04,970 --> 00:11:02,820 him the Godfather of conspiracies a very 156 00:11:06,590 --> 00:11:04,980 interesting character and I was just 157 00:11:08,810 --> 00:11:06,600 speaking to somebody in our Discord 158 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:08,820 server who asked me my opinion of John 159 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:10,680 Lear and and I'll give it to you John 160 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:13,440 Lear started out very very credible he 161 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:15,300 used to show evidence for the things he 162 00:11:19,850 --> 00:11:16,920 was talking about like he would discover 163 00:11:20,750 --> 00:11:19,860 some once secret documents that talked 164 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:20,760 about 165 00:11:25,490 --> 00:11:23,880 whatever secret bases or UFOs and he 166 00:11:28,250 --> 00:11:25,500 would share those documents and talk 167 00:11:31,310 --> 00:11:28,260 about what the government really knows 168 00:11:32,569 --> 00:11:31,320 and he had evidence right he 169 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:32,579 investigated 170 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:34,680 but somewhere along the line John Lear 171 00:11:38,090 --> 00:11:36,600 just went off the rails and he became 172 00:11:40,910 --> 00:11:38,100 full-blown 173 00:11:43,430 --> 00:11:40,920 no other word for it part of my overuse 174 00:11:47,090 --> 00:11:43,440 of this word he just became a full-blown 175 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:47,100 Wackadoo because 176 00:11:52,130 --> 00:11:49,680 the older John Lear got the more willing 177 00:11:54,889 --> 00:11:52,140 he was just to accept and repeat stories 178 00:11:57,769 --> 00:11:54,899 without evidence without any basis in 179 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:57,779 what I would call reality and it would 180 00:12:00,710 --> 00:12:00,000 appear you know towards the end of his 181 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:00,720 life 182 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,180 so we see how John Lear started he had 183 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:05,279 documents he had evidence he had 184 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,160 witnesses that he would interview 185 00:12:13,550 --> 00:12:10,560 um and on the record interviews with 186 00:12:15,650 --> 00:12:13,560 verifiable real people and Witnesses and 187 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:15,660 you know he verified their backgrounds 188 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:17,160 were real if they said they were in the 189 00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:19,760 military you know the kind of good 190 00:12:23,630 --> 00:12:21,839 investigative work that you would expect 191 00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:23,640 from somebody that's a serious 192 00:12:28,130 --> 00:12:26,339 researcher but again somewhere along the 193 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:28,140 line John Lear just went off the rails 194 00:12:32,630 --> 00:12:30,360 and before you know it this last couple 195 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:32,640 of years before he died he was telling 196 00:12:36,350 --> 00:12:34,560 people let's see there's a hundred 197 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:36,360 thousand people living on the moon and 198 00:12:42,190 --> 00:12:39,660 the government's lying to us about it 199 00:12:46,129 --> 00:12:42,200 um there's uh 200 00:12:48,290 --> 00:12:46,139 habitable bases uh where people are 201 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:48,300 living on every planet in the solar 202 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:51,540 system including Pluto 203 00:12:55,370 --> 00:12:54,060 better pack warm for that one 204 00:12:58,490 --> 00:12:55,380 um 205 00:13:00,290 --> 00:12:58,500 he was uh also he he told people stories 206 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:00,300 about when he was in Vietnam how they 207 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:03,200 fought like alien monsters in the jungle 208 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:07,620 it just got absolutely crazy and he 209 00:13:12,129 --> 00:13:10,079 believed everything including the Billy 210 00:13:15,530 --> 00:13:12,139 Myers story was real 211 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:15,540 uh it just gets it got worse and worse 212 00:13:22,250 --> 00:13:17,940 for him and and I don't know if it was 213 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:22,260 exposure you know maybe being too 214 00:13:26,990 --> 00:13:24,720 interested in UFOs and aliens is like 215 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,000 radiation right like a little bit of 216 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:29,519 exposure isn't going to hurt you but if 217 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:31,320 you spend too long 218 00:13:35,449 --> 00:13:33,300 next to that radioactive thing 219 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:35,459 eventually it's going to affect you 220 00:13:43,009 --> 00:13:40,200 negatively and it I'm starting to worry 221 00:13:45,230 --> 00:13:43,019 because I have seen this happen well I 222 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:45,240 don't think I'm in danger of of going 223 00:13:51,769 --> 00:13:48,480 down the Wackadoo path but I have seen 224 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:51,779 many many people that they started off 225 00:13:56,329 --> 00:13:54,540 like John Lear you know we're like me 226 00:13:59,030 --> 00:13:56,339 you know I want evidence I want 227 00:14:01,550 --> 00:13:59,040 documents I want proof I want people to 228 00:14:04,250 --> 00:14:01,560 be vetted not just accept their story 229 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:04,260 because they said so 230 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:07,260 um and I have seen so many people fall 231 00:14:11,569 --> 00:14:09,839 into into the Wackadoo Lane and just 232 00:14:14,990 --> 00:14:11,579 start believing anything just because 233 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:15,000 somebody says it it's as if somewhere 234 00:14:18,829 --> 00:14:17,040 along the line some of these people and 235 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:18,839 we see it today we don't have to go back 236 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:21,060 28 years to see this we could see this 237 00:14:26,090 --> 00:14:23,760 today some people 238 00:14:28,430 --> 00:14:26,100 um you know I I always repeat that 239 00:14:30,050 --> 00:14:28,440 famous phrase from Stanton Friedman who 240 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:30,060 by the way they talk about in this radio 241 00:14:34,430 --> 00:14:32,040 broadcast they [\h__\h] talks to you and 242 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:34,440 Friedman because he was busting babazar 243 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:38,300 stories anyway uh you know 244 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:41,279 he had a famous saying it was don't 245 00:14:45,949 --> 00:14:43,199 bother them with the facts their Mind Is 246 00:14:49,069 --> 00:14:45,959 Made Up and he meant that about Skeptics 247 00:14:51,170 --> 00:14:49,079 but it also equally applies to Believers 248 00:14:53,389 --> 00:14:51,180 because some of these people just 249 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:53,399 believe all of it they believe that 250 00:14:57,949 --> 00:14:55,860 aliens are visiting us there's crash 251 00:15:00,590 --> 00:14:57,959 retrievals the government has intact 252 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:00,600 craft the government has alien bodies 253 00:15:04,670 --> 00:15:02,880 the government may have live aliens that 254 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:04,680 they're keeping in captivity and 255 00:15:08,810 --> 00:15:06,740 communicating with telepathically 256 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:08,820 somewhere along the line some people 257 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:11,760 just decide they believe all of it and 258 00:15:18,410 --> 00:15:15,000 then I I kind of believe this that 259 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:18,420 instead of uh consuming information 260 00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:20,639 about all this stuff becoming a search 261 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:24,000 for the truth it becomes a hunt 262 00:15:28,850 --> 00:15:27,240 for stories that will validate your 263 00:15:30,889 --> 00:15:28,860 pre-held belief 264 00:15:32,569 --> 00:15:30,899 that you already have in other words 265 00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:32,579 their minds are already made up the 266 00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,560 aliens are here and they just want 267 00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:36,480 people to tell them that what they 268 00:15:41,689 --> 00:15:38,699 believe is right you're right the aliens 269 00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:41,699 are here let me tell you some comforting 270 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:45,000 stories to reinforce your belief your 271 00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:49,970 I think this is very troubling and it 272 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:53,699 reminds me to uh keep a level ahead and 273 00:15:58,129 --> 00:15:56,339 first of all demand evidence and second 274 00:16:00,769 --> 00:15:58,139 of all 275 00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:00,779 um don't 276 00:16:06,650 --> 00:16:03,660 go into a story with pre-help beliefs 277 00:16:09,290 --> 00:16:06,660 but rather follow where the evidence 278 00:16:11,629 --> 00:16:09,300 will lead you 279 00:16:13,550 --> 00:16:11,639 um yeah so we're going to get into this 280 00:16:15,769 --> 00:16:13,560 and I I just want to mention for the 281 00:16:17,689 --> 00:16:15,779 benefit of anyone else who is interested 282 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:17,699 in these little known 283 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:22,320 historical fragments of UFO history that 284 00:16:28,970 --> 00:16:25,199 this radio show aired in Las Vegas 285 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:28,980 starting in 1995 they did five shows I 286 00:16:33,009 --> 00:16:30,899 don't know if this was monthly or weekly 287 00:16:36,769 --> 00:16:33,019 if anybody has any more evidence 288 00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,779 uh or insight into this Bob Lazar lost 289 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:39,360 radio show please do email me at 290 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:41,880 truthseekershow gmail.com maybe you're a 291 00:16:47,150 --> 00:16:44,220 little more informed 292 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:47,160 um and also I I want to thank everybody 293 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:49,680 who showed up for the premiere today uh 294 00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:51,839 for our new formatted 295 00:16:57,590 --> 00:16:55,560 uh true Seekers present show it was more 296 00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:57,600 or less a success but a failure on my 297 00:17:02,810 --> 00:17:00,959 part because I had to render that show 298 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:02,820 like three or four times there was a 299 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:05,160 copyright claim because we used a piece 300 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:07,199 of footage that somebody had copyrighted 301 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:09,839 so I had to redo those sections and 302 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:12,240 re-render it and I forgot that I used 303 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:14,540 that three times in it 304 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:17,880 so I uploaded get the copyright claim oh 305 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:19,799 no I replaced that oh that's a different 306 00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:21,540 time stamp and then I had to do it again 307 00:17:27,710 --> 00:17:24,959 and again somehow I managed to cut the 308 00:17:29,630 --> 00:17:27,720 last four minutes of that show off which 309 00:17:32,210 --> 00:17:29,640 really was just a very couple minutes 310 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:32,220 quick wrap up and you know 311 00:17:37,730 --> 00:17:36,000 the the outro but I still hate that we I 312 00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:37,740 went through so much work to make this 313 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:40,440 thing and then somehow screwed up the 314 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:42,480 premiere so I apologize but I want to 315 00:17:49,549 --> 00:17:44,940 thank all of you uh we had great turnout 316 00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:49,559 today at 2 p.m Eastern so I'm going to I 317 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:51,900 can't I finally figured out what the 318 00:17:54,669 --> 00:17:53,820 problem was and why it cut off the four 319 00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:54,679 minutes 320 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:56,940 I was trying to figure it out earlier 321 00:18:01,490 --> 00:17:59,520 didn't figure it out I figured it out uh 322 00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:01,500 but I can't render it while the show is 323 00:18:06,409 --> 00:18:03,000 running I mean I could own another 324 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:06,419 computer but anyway after the show 325 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,419 tonight I will do what I hope to God is 326 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:12,000 the final render right I had joked that 327 00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:15,120 making pre-recorded secret shows is 328 00:18:18,890 --> 00:18:17,400 about as fun as making a hemorrhoid 329 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:18,900 commercial and so far that's turned out 330 00:18:22,909 --> 00:18:20,340 to be pretty accurate I have never 331 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,919 rendered one thing so many times or 332 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:24,960 fixed so many stupid mistakes and now it 333 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:25,860 seems like 334 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:27,960 even when I thought it was over right 335 00:18:32,450 --> 00:18:30,240 but in my defense it was 3 A.M last 336 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:32,460 night when I was redoing this thing and 337 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:35,160 uh I don't know just not on the ball but 338 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:38,520 I fixed it or I fixed it in the editor 339 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:41,340 now I just have to render it out and 340 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:43,980 upload it it'll be available late 341 00:18:47,150 --> 00:18:45,960 tonight two o'clock in the morning maybe 342 00:18:51,409 --> 00:18:47,160 uh 343 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:51,419 coming everybody liked the new format 344 00:18:55,730 --> 00:18:53,340 what they except for the ending cut off 345 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,740 of course so we'll be 346 00:19:01,250 --> 00:18:58,320 um we'll be fixing that and I'm hoping 347 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:01,260 that this experience with recording this 348 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:02,940 first one does not 349 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:06,780 you know uh preclude the possibility of 350 00:19:10,730 --> 00:19:08,760 more of these I want to keep doing these 351 00:19:13,850 --> 00:19:10,740 so that I can throw in an extra show or 352 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:13,860 two every week that is pre-recorded 353 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:16,620 um but boy I feel pretty discouraged 354 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:19,260 I'll buy that first experience the first 355 00:19:23,330 --> 00:19:20,640 one is always the hardest it's like 356 00:19:25,310 --> 00:19:23,340 making your first album of music after 357 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:25,320 you wrote that many songs and went 358 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:26,760 through the recording process and the 359 00:19:29,810 --> 00:19:28,320 production process and the mastering 360 00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:29,820 process you kind of figure it out the 361 00:19:34,730 --> 00:19:32,160 next one's easier I'm hoping it will be 362 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:34,740 like that so we're gonna put our fair 363 00:19:38,930 --> 00:19:37,020 use oh you know what I forgot to check 364 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:38,940 in with the live chat I apologize and I 365 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:40,320 think I would 366 00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:42,059 um we want to welcome each and every one 367 00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:44,820 of you uh if you're just joining us here 368 00:19:48,830 --> 00:19:46,380 watching truth Seekers and we're going 369 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:48,840 to be showing and sharing with you a 370 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:50,520 little known 371 00:19:55,789 --> 00:19:53,820 radio show that Bob Lazar did uh with 372 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:55,799 his one-time business partner Gene huff 373 00:20:01,730 --> 00:19:58,620 and his uh co-conspirator in the hoax I 374 00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:01,740 mean uh other friend John Lear 375 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:06,059 and uh we'll uh we'll be getting to that 376 00:20:11,390 --> 00:20:09,000 soon we want to thank Robert C for kind 377 00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:11,400 and generous two dollar appraised the 378 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,140 cash thank you for your kindness 379 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:15,840 generosity and support we appreciate all 380 00:20:19,850 --> 00:20:17,700 of you uh we're going to be going 381 00:20:21,890 --> 00:20:19,860 through this interview but I will be 382 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,900 reading each and every Super Chat as 383 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:24,000 they come in today thank you for helping 384 00:20:30,289 --> 00:20:27,360 us to praise the cash Robert C 385 00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:30,299 where's the gas breaks the cash 386 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,780 thank you very much we appreciate it uh 387 00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:36,000 so let me catch up to uh what's going on 388 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:38,460 in the latest in the live chat make sure 389 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:39,900 I didn't miss anything else and then 390 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:41,520 we're going to get started here 391 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:44,820 uh yeah I will put up my fair use Banner 392 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,740 this is a transformative work I really 393 00:20:50,690 --> 00:20:48,240 don't think that anybody's gonna care 394 00:20:51,529 --> 00:20:50,700 about a 28 year old radio broadcast I 395 00:20:53,330 --> 00:20:51,539 found 396 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,340 oh and by the way there's supposed to be 397 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:55,919 five episodes of this and I only have 398 00:21:02,150 --> 00:20:56,880 found 399 00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:02,160 this one so if uh if anybody else has uh 400 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:04,620 any more please do email me at 401 00:21:09,950 --> 00:21:07,980 truthseekershow gmail.com 402 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,960 um now I just want to caution everybody 403 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,520 that we're just having kind of a fun 404 00:21:18,049 --> 00:21:13,679 night traveling back in times into 405 00:21:20,210 --> 00:21:18,059 December 1995 to hear what the the what 406 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:20,220 you could say at the time was the top 407 00:21:26,510 --> 00:21:23,460 UFO Guys these were the big cheeses 408 00:21:30,049 --> 00:21:26,520 right are talking about but I want to 409 00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:30,059 caution you not to expect any big 410 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,120 Revelations or any you know big gotcha 411 00:21:36,830 --> 00:21:34,559 moments here 412 00:21:39,230 --> 00:21:36,840 the big takeaway that I've had from 413 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:39,240 listening to this before the show is 414 00:21:46,370 --> 00:21:43,679 just how much little has changed I mean 415 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:46,380 they appear to be talking about the same 416 00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:48,360 stories and kind of stuff that people 417 00:21:52,970 --> 00:21:50,340 are talking about now now of course 418 00:21:57,169 --> 00:21:52,980 they're missing everything from 1996 419 00:21:59,630 --> 00:21:57,179 forward but we've got Area 51 and back 420 00:22:03,770 --> 00:21:59,640 engineering and deep underground bases 421 00:22:06,289 --> 00:22:03,780 and and uh alien abductions and 422 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:06,299 um it's it's interesting how little has 423 00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:09,840 actually changed right and by the way uh 424 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:13,140 I do want to mention that we will be uh 425 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:14,940 uploading this 426 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,760 uh radio broadcast separately to our 427 00:22:21,770 --> 00:22:19,679 channel here without the commentary for 428 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,780 people who are researchers or just want 429 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:24,000 to have it or have access to it 430 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:29,520 and uh I did did do just a little bit of 431 00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:31,500 cleaning up of the audio we ran it 432 00:22:36,169 --> 00:22:34,140 through and it was really noisy uh so we 433 00:22:38,990 --> 00:22:36,179 ran it through a noise filter and an 434 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,000 equalizer and it's as for you 435 00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,039 audiophiles don't complain about the 436 00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:43,679 audio quality of this because the way I 437 00:22:48,010 --> 00:22:46,020 got it was much much worse and this is 438 00:22:50,930 --> 00:22:48,020 much much more 439 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:50,940 listenable than it was in its original 440 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,240 form I did the best that I could do uh 441 00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:56,640 and and some of you appreciate when I do 442 00:23:02,930 --> 00:22:59,360 those little things to uh preserve 443 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:02,940 history here so let's get into it this 444 00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:05,520 is Bob lazar's long lost radio show the 445 00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:10,020 UFO line with Gene huff and John Lear 446 00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:24,850 no music 447 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:32,780 [Music] 448 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:35,400 good evening and welcome to UFO line I'm 449 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:37,320 Gene Haas here with Bob Lazar Bob are 450 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,900 you set for the show No in fact this is 451 00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:41,760 the last place I want to be tonight 452 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:44,580 that's the spirit our guest tonight 453 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:46,500 really needs no introduction in the Las 454 00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:49,020 Vegas listening area he's got a famous 455 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,120 family yeah and just to be clear it 456 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:53,520 appears that the the radio show belonged 457 00:23:59,570 --> 00:23:55,860 to Gene huff and Bob Lazar 458 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,580 and uh this one episode they had John 459 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:01,440 Lear as a guest name and he's made an 460 00:24:05,450 --> 00:24:03,720 Infamous name for himself in UFO 461 00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:05,460 research and that Jess of course is John 462 00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:08,280 Lear welcome John thanks Gene so John I 463 00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,200 think a good place to start might be uh 464 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:12,240 of all the stories that fly around us 465 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:14,700 about you and ufology I think one that I 466 00:24:18,049 --> 00:24:16,260 always jumping right into this right 467 00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,059 right one that a lot of people don't 468 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:19,679 know is how did you get interested in 469 00:24:23,090 --> 00:24:21,720 ufology how how did what was the 470 00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:23,100 Catalyst that actually made you pay 471 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:24,299 attention to what's going on I agree 472 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,980 Matt was always talking about business 473 00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:28,080 stuff he was he had seen he made a 474 00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:30,299 sighting and uh 475 00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,960 um 476 00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:32,880 Brad never been all that much interested 477 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:34,260 because I didn't think there was 478 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,820 anything to it as a matter of fact 1980 479 00:24:40,909 --> 00:24:38,159 I remember corresponding with uh John 480 00:24:42,770 --> 00:24:40,919 Andrews that uh Hub testers that there 481 00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:42,780 was nothing to it yep the temporary 482 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:44,340 considered all the stories that all the 483 00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:46,820 guys hears but in 1985 484 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:49,919 uh a friend of mine who I flew with uh 485 00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:52,320 in Laos uh during the Southeast Asian 486 00:24:56,029 --> 00:24:54,419 conflict he flew a-10s he came through 487 00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,039 Nellis Air Force Base on his way 488 00:24:59,690 --> 00:24:57,840 somewhere and he came up he hadn't seen 489 00:25:01,130 --> 00:24:59,700 him in about 10 years and in the 490 00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:01,140 conversation I asked him where all he'd 491 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,179 been based since I'd see him and one of 492 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:05,520 the places he mentioned was bent Waters 493 00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:07,320 England that's the United States Air 494 00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:09,120 Force Base about 70 miles Northeast of 495 00:25:13,370 --> 00:25:11,880 London and I said oh bent Waters well 496 00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:13,380 that's supposedly where that Flying 497 00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:15,659 Saucer crashed in 1980s and no John not 498 00:25:18,529 --> 00:25:17,280 supposedly it did he said I didn't see 499 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:18,539 it because I was confined to quarters 500 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:24,649 and he gave me the names of major Ted 501 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,480 Conrad uh Colonel Chuckles and uh 502 00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:29,039 General Williams 503 00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:30,419 and I said what are you what are you 504 00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:32,279 telling me that this stuff is true and 505 00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:34,919 he said yeah it sure is and that's what 506 00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:36,600 started me off so I spent the next two 507 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:38,520 years you know I thought I had known a 508 00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:40,860 lot of secret stuff I worked on and off 509 00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:44,039 for the CIA for many years and I thought 510 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,500 he knew a lot of stuff but this is one 511 00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:48,000 big thing I missed out so that's what 512 00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:50,100 started okay if anyone would like to 513 00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:53,279 give us a call you can call 731-1230 our 514 00:26:02,750 --> 00:25:57,120 hit star 12 30 on your cell phone uh 515 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,190 I mean you're always good for an 516 00:26:08,269 --> 00:26:06,240 outrageous prediction uh why don't we 517 00:26:09,710 --> 00:26:08,279 get your comments on some of the recent 518 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:09,720 happenings what are your thoughts on the 519 00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:13,440 alien autopsy so uh I think it's it's uh 520 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,480 it's not real it's his personal opinion 521 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:17,520 there's no particular reason and but it 522 00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:20,640 doesn't look like uh 523 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,500 a real alien as if I've seen a real 524 00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:24,480 alien before so you think somebody faked 525 00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:25,620 it for money 526 00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:27,299 uh could be I really don't know what 527 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:48,830 well Bob has a giant list of past John 528 00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:51,360 Lear predictions and statements and 529 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,919 accusations that he'd like to go through 530 00:26:56,330 --> 00:26:54,960 to see which ones you still Stand By and 531 00:26:57,769 --> 00:26:56,340 which ones you change your mind on so 532 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:57,779 Bob you want to go ahead and hit the 533 00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:01,520 list sure I do thank you 534 00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:04,919 okay let's see here 535 00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:07,020 let's start at the bottom the driver 536 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,820 shot Kennedy the driver of the limo shot 537 00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:10,320 Kennedy what do you think I'm not 538 00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:12,360 convinced that uh still not convinced 539 00:27:16,970 --> 00:27:13,980 that uh he didn't do it of course 540 00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:16,980 everybody's dropped it by now but you 541 00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:23,269 um I'm sorry I was saying that isn't it 542 00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:26,100 interesting that John Lear he sent two 543 00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:27,900 things there first he didn't believe the 544 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:29,820 alien autopsy this guy literally 545 00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:31,679 believes anything but he didn't believe 546 00:27:38,810 --> 00:27:35,460 the alien autopsy was real in 1995 and 547 00:27:40,669 --> 00:27:38,820 now uh he also said 548 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,679 it just doesn't look like a real alien 549 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:42,720 because I've seen a real alien 550 00:27:47,630 --> 00:27:44,940 okay John Lear 551 00:27:51,529 --> 00:27:47,640 I went back and viewed some film that a 552 00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:51,539 guy had that was uh really close up and 553 00:27:55,730 --> 00:27:53,159 he was trying to sell that film the only 554 00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:55,740 one was the recruiter film uh yeah it 555 00:28:00,289 --> 00:27:58,260 was the enlarged from one of the 556 00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:00,299 supposed second through third generation 557 00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,279 films with and he was trying to show me 558 00:28:06,649 --> 00:28:03,840 yeah I got the message stuff the 559 00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:06,659 driver's Hands on the Wheel while this 560 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,460 supposed shooting scenario was going on 561 00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:10,799 but but it wasn't all that convincing 562 00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,960 okay 563 00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:15,480 the five miles per the five square mile 564 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:19,500 roof over Area 51 uh yeah that was uh 565 00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:24,179 right okay okay one-on-one the two 566 00:28:28,190 --> 00:28:26,700 billion aliens living along the 567 00:28:30,590 --> 00:28:28,200 mountains or inside the mountains along 568 00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,600 Highway 93. that was pretty now I'm 569 00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:32,159 going to post this separately without 570 00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:34,440 our commentary over it but in order to 571 00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:36,480 do that I need to do this show with the 572 00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,820 commentary so that we can make it a 573 00:28:42,649 --> 00:28:40,620 transformative work and by the way while 574 00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:42,659 we're talking about that please any 575 00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:44,220 comment while you're listening to this 576 00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:46,260 that you want me to share on the screen 577 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,120 please put it in all capital letters and 578 00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,159 I'll share it on the screen and by doing 579 00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:52,440 so you will be helping me to make this a 580 00:28:56,810 --> 00:28:55,380 transformative work pretty far-fetched I 581 00:29:00,190 --> 00:28:56,820 have to admit it's hard to believe it 582 00:29:06,169 --> 00:29:02,990 yeah so there was a theory in the 90s 583 00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:06,179 that the driver of the car shot Kennedy 584 00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:07,980 somehow 585 00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,919 um and by the way I'm aware of several 586 00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:13,679 conspiracy theories theorists today who 587 00:29:18,409 --> 00:29:16,260 still say that uh no I don't believe 588 00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:18,419 that I gotta say it's my favorite ones 589 00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:19,640 for last 590 00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:23,460 uh the underground tunnel from Boulder 591 00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:25,080 Dam to Area 51 there's underground 592 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:28,020 tunnels all over the place and uh so you 593 00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:29,520 think somewhere around the dam you can 594 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,799 get in a tunnel and drive to Area 51 595 00:29:37,130 --> 00:29:34,320 underground Nellis or anywhere you want 596 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,140 Edwards George Air Force you can drive 597 00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,840 from Boulder to Edwards underground uh 598 00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:41,279 it's it's not I don't think you can 599 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:43,980 drive it they have these I think they 600 00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:46,020 call them maglev or something man they 601 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:48,299 got a maglev train in there yeah yeah 602 00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:50,520 and for those unaware John Lear is one 603 00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:52,860 of the people who popularized this idea 604 00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:55,260 of these secret tunnels that connect all 605 00:30:00,889 --> 00:29:57,779 kinds of different military bases 606 00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:00,899 with a high-speed maglev train that does 607 00:30:07,549 --> 00:30:04,200 400 miles an hour apparently in an 608 00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:07,559 underground shaft leading an ending at 609 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,260 area 51. uh he was one of the people 610 00:30:14,990 --> 00:30:12,240 that popularized that and you will find 611 00:30:17,630 --> 00:30:15,000 people you will find Echoes of that 612 00:30:19,090 --> 00:30:17,640 conspiracy theory still today 28 years 613 00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:19,100 later 614 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,919 you must begin with no question no doubt 615 00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:24,360 about it in my mind as a matter of fact 616 00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,279 I talked and they built that without 617 00:30:30,409 --> 00:30:28,559 anyone seeing him dig the tunnel yeah 618 00:30:32,590 --> 00:30:30,419 what do they do with the dirt and the 619 00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:32,600 rock that was well I don't think 620 00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:35,220 I think it's the process of digging the 621 00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:37,799 holes that the the dirt is decomposed 622 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,269 [Music] 623 00:30:57,049 --> 00:30:55,070 for those who are unaware John lear's 624 00:31:00,649 --> 00:30:57,059 background is very impressive first of 625 00:31:03,289 --> 00:31:00,659 all he's the son of uh the person who 626 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:03,299 invented the Lear Jet and his family had 627 00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:06,960 an aviation company and also uh John 628 00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:09,840 Lear was in the military and flew also 629 00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:10,799 flew 630 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:17,340 the CIA and that is known and verified 631 00:31:25,130 --> 00:31:21,360 that's not you know 632 00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:25,140 speculation or him making up stories he 633 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:26,279 really did 634 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,860 and he was also a commercial airline 635 00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:30,720 pilot for a Time 636 00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:32,760 or but right around this time I believe 637 00:31:37,789 --> 00:31:35,580 he was fired just for believing in UFOs 638 00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:37,799 and he does talk about it more on this 639 00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:39,779 show as we progress 640 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:49,149 there we go sorry about that 641 00:31:54,889 --> 00:31:52,190 equipment that uses 642 00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:54,899 but that would be a major undertaking I 643 00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:55,860 agree 644 00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:58,200 you know a maglev train under there you 645 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,380 have no idea how far those things extend 646 00:32:06,649 --> 00:32:03,840 I talked with a guy who works in LA with 647 00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:06,659 a guy who that's interesting aliens and 648 00:32:09,649 --> 00:32:08,220 he talked you know he talked about 649 00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:09,659 getting on this maglev and going 650 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:11,580 different places you know it's just not 651 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:13,200 out here it's all over the place yeah 652 00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:15,000 I'm gonna stick around that one okay 653 00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:16,860 don't call acid rescue and if we're here 654 00:32:23,570 --> 00:32:19,380 with John Lair if you want to give us a 655 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:23,580 call dial 731-1230 okay yeah 656 00:32:27,289 --> 00:32:25,260 yeah and there's something really weird 657 00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:27,299 with this whole thing it sounds like 658 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:28,919 there's like somebody playing party 659 00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:32,880 music behind them like or or like in a 660 00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:34,740 room a few rooms away from them through 661 00:32:39,950 --> 00:32:37,679 this whole thing it's bizarre 662 00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:39,960 um so I I don't really know about like 663 00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:42,059 where this was recorded was this in a 664 00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:44,940 radio station Studio or in somebody's 665 00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:47,820 house let's see here 666 00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:49,380 yeah I don't want to say that one yet 667 00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:51,779 what about this yeah like 50s party 668 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:06,049 okay 669 00:33:10,269 --> 00:33:09,049 um what about that little story about 670 00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,279 um 671 00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:12,720 abductee is getting these implants and 672 00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:14,580 then yeah sometimes someone's going to 673 00:33:19,490 --> 00:33:16,500 have this device that resembles a TV 674 00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:19,500 remote control and uh be able to control 675 00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:22,740 these guys all in Mass yeah I haven't 676 00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,659 heard that conspiracy theory in a long 677 00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:26,880 time for a while in the 90s yes there 678 00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:28,679 was a conspiracy theory that all these 679 00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:32,279 people that were getting alien implants 680 00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,380 um the the aliens apparently had a 681 00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:36,240 remote control where eventually they'd 682 00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:37,919 be able to control all these people with 683 00:33:41,399 --> 00:33:44,409 um 684 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:47,750 the stealth fighter the liquid crystals 685 00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,080 on the top and bottom of the stealth 686 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:51,120 fighter so from above it looks like the 687 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:52,980 ground and from below it looks like this 688 00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:54,840 guy they didn't use that on the stealth 689 00:34:04,029 --> 00:33:56,220 fighter but it may have been used on 690 00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:05,990 your expression 691 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:12,310 uh 70 different species of aliens 80s 692 00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,320 90s okay well where John there says 693 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:18,960 there's 80 species of aliens that have 694 00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:20,700 visited Earth so we can probably 695 00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:23,220 pinpoint on a timeline 696 00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:26,460 that right around 1995 is when John Lear 697 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:28,560 started going off the rails where do you 698 00:34:31,609 --> 00:34:30,000 get a number like that 699 00:34:36,589 --> 00:34:31,619 from the different drawings that the 700 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,570 all the drawings I've seen with the 701 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,800 inspection the expansion did I say that 702 00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:43,679 word with the expectations with the 703 00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:49,730 The Reptilian type guy 704 00:34:54,649 --> 00:34:52,379 and the pickle man you're right you're 705 00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,659 right yeah yeah also little known 706 00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:56,000 factoid 707 00:35:01,609 --> 00:34:59,700 John lear's father was wealthy very very 708 00:35:03,589 --> 00:35:01,619 wealthy and believe it or not a lot of 709 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,599 his money came from inventing 710 00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:05,760 eight-track tape players 711 00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:08,099 and he held the patents and so everybody 712 00:35:12,770 --> 00:35:10,740 who bought or made a tracks had to pay 713 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:12,780 John lear's father the remainder of them 714 00:35:17,390 --> 00:35:14,820 look exactly essentially the same 715 00:35:18,829 --> 00:35:17,400 exactly like the grade no these books 716 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:18,839 and books and books of all the different 717 00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:20,730 things 718 00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:22,220 [Music] 719 00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:29,450 um 720 00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:32,940 oh and I'm not saying I disagree 721 00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:34,680 yeah I guess it was a jail down 722 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:40,970 if I said that I was a little bit off 723 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:42,900 basement but not all faced with those 724 00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:45,300 other things yeah okay 725 00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,890 well not yet reptilians since we 726 00:35:58,130 --> 00:35:54,240 mentioned them yours are reptilian race 727 00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:58,140 and uh where does this come from 728 00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:00,000 where did he come from no where I mean 729 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:02,280 where does his information come from the 730 00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:03,839 reason I bring up reptilians is because 731 00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:07,560 at one time I called you had a UFO 732 00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:11,040 drawing somewhere that you showed me and 733 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:11,820 um 734 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,320 I thought it looked pretty neat and 735 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:15,119 wanted to get a print of it and you said 736 00:36:21,069 --> 00:36:18,180 I had a call Bill Hamilton or something 737 00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:21,079 like that so so far we've uh 738 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:26,220 JFK drivers shot uh the driver shot JFK 739 00:36:36,290 --> 00:36:27,780 conspiracy 740 00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:36,300 and now we're into reptilian aliens and 741 00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:38,220 John Lear is saying there's over 80 742 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:42,180 species of aliens and and Lazar is 743 00:36:46,849 --> 00:36:45,060 sort of uh puzzled about where he's 744 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,859 getting this and now he's drilling down 745 00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:49,560 on reptilian aliens as a real species 746 00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:52,440 yeah and uh you gave me his number I 747 00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:54,900 called and got his wife or girlfriend on 748 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:55,760 the phone 749 00:37:00,770 --> 00:36:59,040 and I agree alien science he said that 750 00:37:03,950 --> 00:37:00,780 Bill's not here right now he's down the 751 00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:03,960 block uh because uh one of the neighbors 752 00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:06,180 was having some problems with a 753 00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:08,280 reptilian and I I thought it was a joke 754 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:10,380 and she was serious and I said well what 755 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:13,980 do you mean and uh she said well he was 756 00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:17,280 out hassling her in the front yard 757 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:19,500 now this always has left an impression 758 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:21,300 with me that these reptilian guys are 759 00:37:24,849 --> 00:37:22,859 out walking around hassling people on 760 00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:24,859 the street and well that's in California 761 00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:27,720 I'm not familiar I don't remember that 762 00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:30,119 story but the fact is uh there is a 763 00:37:41,890 --> 00:37:32,339 reptilian race and they are around and 764 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:44,750 is there any contact with him now 765 00:37:55,450 --> 00:37:48,000 uh supposedly it's a test site there has 766 00:38:01,250 --> 00:37:58,370 they're just there uh the story was 767 00:38:03,770 --> 00:38:01,260 related to me about a guard 768 00:38:08,349 --> 00:38:03,780 who had to be or guards who had to be 769 00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:10,930 yes just flash photos 770 00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:14,040 uh of these species before they were put 771 00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,900 on duty so that they were sitting there 772 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:17,520 and guarding something one of these 773 00:38:22,450 --> 00:38:19,260 things came walking down the hall and he 774 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:22,460 you guys dropped out of a heart attack 775 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:26,040 John Lear said that somebody saw one of 776 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:28,020 these reptilian aliens just walking down 777 00:38:30,490 --> 00:38:29,520 the hall and they dropped dead of a 778 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:30,500 heart attack 779 00:38:36,050 --> 00:38:33,240 what would uh what do you do you have 780 00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,060 any ideas about the motivations and what 781 00:38:42,050 --> 00:38:38,240 is this a yeah 782 00:38:46,130 --> 00:38:42,060 good point out that Lou and here's the 783 00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:46,140 thing I think this was all a shtick and 784 00:38:53,630 --> 00:38:50,760 uh Lear and him always did this uh Lou 785 00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:53,640 they always did this back and forth with 786 00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:56,160 like with like Bob Lazar being the 787 00:39:01,010 --> 00:38:59,040 credible skeptical one and John Lear 788 00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,020 talking about all kinds of wackadoo 789 00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:03,839 stuff they did this all the time and I I 790 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,180 was surprised to be reminded of that 791 00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:09,599 right and even in interviews where Bob 792 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:11,640 Lazarus asked about John Lear he would 793 00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:13,079 basically say well like John layer 794 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,820 believes a lot of stuff and he's a he's 795 00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:17,040 a great guy he's my friend but wow he's 796 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:19,920 really out there it was almost as if it 797 00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:22,800 was a setup to make Bob Lazar appear 798 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:26,099 more believable and more credible put 799 00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:28,260 him with a wackadoo in the form of John 800 00:39:32,329 --> 00:39:30,599 Lear right with humans and the 801 00:39:34,849 --> 00:39:32,339 reptilians similarly old stories about 802 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,859 the Grays are are exactly what is there 803 00:39:40,849 --> 00:39:37,680 I don't know what this girl is no I just 804 00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:40,859 can't buy that you believe all this 805 00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:44,280 stuff well when we first met in uh I 806 00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:51,050 yeah and as the story goes this this is 807 00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:52,680 a little-known part of the story that is 808 00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:54,680 is very important 809 00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,800 if we believe these guys Bob Lazar is 810 00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:00,960 just an out of work scientist helping 811 00:40:05,390 --> 00:40:03,420 out his friend Gene huff and they go to 812 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,400 John lear's house to do a real estate 813 00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,680 appraisal and I guess Bob lazar's there 814 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:09,359 to like hold the tape measure or 815 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:11,880 something it's so ridiculous 816 00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:14,880 and at the time John Lear was going on 817 00:40:20,089 --> 00:40:16,920 shows with George Knapp telling stories 818 00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:20,099 about nine alien spacecraft and hidden 819 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:22,980 hangers in a in a sub-secret base of 820 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:26,940 Area 51 and then Bob Lazar somehow meets 821 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:30,660 John Lear while John Lear is telling the 822 00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:33,300 stories about those alien spacecraft at 823 00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:36,180 Area 51 but he hadn't worked at Area 51 824 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,660 yet and then within weeks of meeting 825 00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:41,760 John Lear somehow he's suddenly working 826 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,400 at Area 51 S4 on the very same nine 827 00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:49,680 flying saucers that the government is 828 00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:52,140 trying to back engineer that John Lear 829 00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:54,060 talked about on George Knapp's show 830 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,960 previous to Bob Lazar being interviewed 831 00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:00,720 by George Knapp I think that's more than 832 00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:03,660 a coincidence right it just so happened 833 00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,339 to meet the guy that was talking about 834 00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:08,400 the very same program that you would go 835 00:41:14,930 --> 00:41:11,579 work for and a lot of Bob lazar's 836 00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:14,940 details like the nine Hangar bays and 837 00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:17,900 that they had nine spacecraft 838 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,540 lifted entirely from John Lear telling 839 00:41:27,530 --> 00:41:23,520 those stories with George Knapp before 840 00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:27,540 Bob Lazar did and uh yeah but Colin 841 00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:30,599 George now I'm saying you know on uh in 842 00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:32,460 some of his interviews that I have gone 843 00:41:37,849 --> 00:41:35,300 way overboard you guys there we go 844 00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:37,859 your head start on you guys 845 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:39,900 I guarantee you in three to four years 846 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,460 I'm not thinking that's gonna be saying 847 00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:48,609 okay uh Venus nice place to live 848 00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:51,300 now yeah I know you have trouble man I 849 00:41:54,530 --> 00:41:52,859 have a lot of trouble with that yeah and 850 00:41:58,190 --> 00:41:54,540 here we get into this 851 00:42:00,109 --> 00:41:58,200 uh John Lear had these Wackadoo theories 852 00:42:01,490 --> 00:42:00,119 with absolutely no evidence that there 853 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:01,500 was hundreds of thousands of people 854 00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:04,920 living on the moon Saturn Venus and the 855 00:42:09,609 --> 00:42:07,260 government was lying to us about it all 856 00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:09,619 and that they were sort of like 857 00:42:15,770 --> 00:42:13,020 Paradise uh you know custom-built 858 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,780 Paradise for the elite rich and Powerful 859 00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:18,240 on Earth and they were all escaping to 860 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,560 these other planets and the government 861 00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:21,599 was lying to us about it 862 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,300 and again uh we see that Bob Lazar is 863 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:26,160 playing the skeptic and isn't it 864 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:28,260 interesting that the supporters of 865 00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,140 babazar they always claim that he had no 866 00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:33,599 interest in UFOs he's hanging out with 867 00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:36,599 UFO guys he's doing a radio show about 868 00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,260 UFOs in 1995 and around this time in 869 00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:42,960 1995 he was getting paid big bucks to do 870 00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:45,060 interviews in documentaries and 871 00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:46,980 television series and all kinds of stuff 872 00:42:52,609 --> 00:42:50,400 so for a guy number one not interested 873 00:42:56,930 --> 00:42:52,619 in UFOs he spends an awful lot of time 874 00:42:59,930 --> 00:42:56,940 on UFOs and number two uh for a guy that 875 00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,940 supposedly made no money from this the 876 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,400 this is a for-profit Enterprise this 877 00:43:07,069 --> 00:43:04,560 radio show and it should be noted that 878 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:07,079 Gene Huff was his business partner and 879 00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:08,760 Gene Huff was the guy who got all the 880 00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,099 money deals he would be the guy you 881 00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:13,440 would contact to book Bob Lazar for your 882 00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:15,180 documentary and I don't know if Gene 883 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,880 Huff took a piece Gene Huff was involved 884 00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,920 with the testers model Corporation deal 885 00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:21,359 and Gene Huff wrote The Hollywood 886 00:43:25,609 --> 00:43:23,579 screenplay that they try to sell 887 00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,619 multiple times to Hollywood producers 888 00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:28,260 unsuccessfully 889 00:43:32,750 --> 00:43:30,180 um so Gene Huff was sort of the guy 890 00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:32,760 pushing him to make money Gene Huff uh 891 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,180 pictured in the middle here uh also Gene 892 00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:39,359 Huff was the guy who 893 00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,200 Gene Huff was the guy also who partnered 894 00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:46,079 with Bob to make VHS tapes with Bob 895 00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:49,020 explaining how the how the alien flying 896 00:43:54,530 --> 00:43:51,300 saucers flew and worked and what they 897 00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:54,540 were powered by and his experiences at 898 00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,180 that secret base it's called excerpts 899 00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,040 from the government Bible they sold it 900 00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:01,440 as a VHS tape in the back of science 901 00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,140 magazines Gene Huff was Bob lazar's 902 00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:06,480 partner in that business so for people 903 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,540 to say that they never made any money uh 904 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,280 well you didn't know about Gene Huff who 905 00:44:16,609 --> 00:44:14,160 was constantly the money deal man right 906 00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:16,619 next to Bob Lazar during this whole time 907 00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,839 period And I believe that they've had a 908 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:20,720 falling out since the Corbell 909 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:24,240 documentary because apparently uh well 910 00:44:29,569 --> 00:44:26,700 there's a whole lot of uh rumors and 911 00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:29,579 speculation uh but I have heard that 912 00:44:34,849 --> 00:44:32,940 Gene huff and him are no longer friendly 913 00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:34,859 because Gene Huff got cut out of the 914 00:44:38,690 --> 00:44:37,260 money when it came time for the Korbel 915 00:44:40,670 --> 00:44:38,700 documentary 916 00:44:42,410 --> 00:44:40,680 and Gene Huff was heavily involved in 917 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:42,420 this entire thing and may have been 918 00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:44,880 heavily involved in helping fake a lot 919 00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:48,060 of it or helping Bob concoct this story 920 00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:49,319 so 921 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:52,319 many of us think that Gene Huff is a 922 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,660 powder keg and Gene Huff could very well 923 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,400 blow the whistle on this whole thing 924 00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:58,560 being a made-up fake story to make money 925 00:45:02,990 --> 00:45:00,780 after all he was the one making the 926 00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:03,000 money with Bob Lazar for a great period 927 00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:05,099 of time because there's a sulfuric acid 928 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:07,940 atmosphere the service centers 929 00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:10,800 no what program there from other our 930 00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:12,300 country and other countries Russia 931 00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:14,940 specifically and you don't think we can 932 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:16,980 back to the information the whole point 933 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:19,560 of why would we what is the big secret 934 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:22,200 so what if it's habitable but we want 935 00:45:27,050 --> 00:45:24,960 people yeah we are down there said that 936 00:45:28,490 --> 00:45:27,060 Saturn was habitable like that whoever 937 00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:28,500 runs the show 938 00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,900 they want people to think that we are 939 00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:33,359 the only people there couldn't be life 940 00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:35,579 on Mars there couldn't be life do you 941 00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:37,380 think there's life on Venus 942 00:45:41,809 --> 00:45:39,900 promise 943 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:41,819 is one of them that lady that shows up 944 00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:44,480 to the U.S organizations 945 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,160 [Music] 946 00:45:49,370 --> 00:45:48,000 what do you think the surface 947 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:49,380 temperature is on Venus around the 948 00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:52,160 equator it's probably like Earth 949 00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,540 what about the clouds I know you're 950 00:45:57,650 --> 00:45:55,680 going to give me that stuff about the 951 00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:57,660 clouds and I don't know how it works and 952 00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,640 like we say we're we're dealing in a 953 00:46:03,370 --> 00:46:01,920 paint you know I don't have any facts I 954 00:46:06,050 --> 00:46:03,380 haven't been there anymore 955 00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:06,060 that's the famous old Bible star come 956 00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,040 back have you been there no I haven't 957 00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:10,079 been there but neither of you yeah I'll 958 00:46:13,849 --> 00:46:11,460 do that any data that the government 959 00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:13,859 sells you on on what they want you to 960 00:46:20,450 --> 00:46:17,950 okay 961 00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:20,460 and let's jump into it because I know 962 00:46:24,890 --> 00:46:22,260 you're so according to John Lear there's 963 00:46:28,910 --> 00:46:24,900 a whole conspiracy and and Saturn is 964 00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:28,920 habitable and Venus is habitable and has 965 00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:31,140 trees and animals and a whole ecosystem 966 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,000 and the government is lying to us for 967 00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:35,520 whatever reason coming up uh atmosphere 968 00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:37,980 on the moon and water on the moon yeah 969 00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:39,960 in certain places there is 970 00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:41,640 it was not a great deal but there's 971 00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:43,980 enough to uh do you think there is a 972 00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:47,280 three mile high or 30 mile high Dome is 973 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,260 that City inside I agree happy house or 974 00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:51,660 mile high tower and I don't know if 975 00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:53,220 there's a city inside it kind of looks 976 00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:55,560 like an antenna but yeah evidence is 977 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,960 pretty good that it's there 978 00:47:02,829 --> 00:46:59,520 and for those that haven't heard about 979 00:47:07,250 --> 00:47:02,839 it's in the uh Hoagland State Moon Mars 980 00:47:12,670 --> 00:47:07,260 jeremony goes through uh Orbiter 981 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:15,650 it's right directly in the center of 982 00:47:22,130 --> 00:47:18,960 finest Medi and when the moon is full uh 983 00:47:24,589 --> 00:47:22,140 it's in the direct Center of them 984 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,599 episode through the uh do the astronauts 985 00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,400 that orbited and walked on the moon are 986 00:47:32,530 --> 00:47:29,280 they aware of this and staying quiet 987 00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:32,540 yeah they are and I met had dinner 988 00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:36,000 wow a psychologist that was assigned to 989 00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:38,940 the Apollo Astronauts and they assigned 990 00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:40,460 him uh 991 00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:43,980 not so much of the weird stuff they saw 992 00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,420 but the fact that they couldn't tell the 993 00:47:49,329 --> 00:47:47,760 public and that's about to show all of 994 00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:49,339 the astronauts 995 00:47:54,530 --> 00:47:52,859 basketball report and and a few others 996 00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:54,540 they were really bitter at Nasa for not 997 00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:56,460 being able to uh to tell the truth about 998 00:48:01,490 --> 00:47:58,380 it I agree yeah but strangely and many 999 00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:01,500 many people Amy Collins think that these 1000 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:03,720 three guys conspired together to create 1001 00:48:08,589 --> 00:48:07,020 this story they were all friends with uh 1002 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:08,599 George Knapp 1003 00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:12,480 uh you know uh georgenet milked John 1004 00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:15,359 Lear on that uh on that Sunday morning 1005 00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:18,540 talk show that he had on local Las Vegas 1006 00:48:24,170 --> 00:48:21,839 uh television before he started milking 1007 00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:24,180 Bob Lazar for stories he was milking 1008 00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:25,800 John Lear 1009 00:48:34,010 --> 00:48:31,730 Edgar Mitchell the Sixth Man on the Moon 1010 00:48:35,569 --> 00:48:34,020 came out here to visit me and he was at 1011 00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:35,579 because he was interested in all the UFO 1012 00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:37,380 informations going on and so forth in 1013 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:39,060 fact even said that all the astronauts 1014 00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:40,500 had gotten together and they have kind 1015 00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:42,180 of a powerful group that they formed I 1016 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:44,520 don't remember what they called it but 1017 00:48:49,069 --> 00:48:47,280 um he didn't mention anything I'm sure 1018 00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,079 that during one day meeting you he would 1019 00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:51,359 have told his deepest darkest secrets to 1020 00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:53,099 dance between him can we pointed that 1021 00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:54,660 out to him also so you do have a good 1022 00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,339 point there 1023 00:48:59,329 --> 00:48:57,839 yeah well that's interesting I haven't 1024 00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:59,339 heard that 1025 00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:01,140 um I kind of look at what I didn't check 1026 00:49:09,290 --> 00:49:06,050 and by the way it was John Lear who told 1027 00:49:15,230 --> 00:49:09,300 me uh that uh Gene huff and Bob weren't 1028 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:15,240 talking and uh you know before his death 1029 00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,160 John Lear came out pretty strongly 1030 00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:20,160 against the Korbel documentary and also 1031 00:49:25,069 --> 00:49:22,140 came out strongly 1032 00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:25,079 uh saying that the book was not written 1033 00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,480 the babazar autobiography book was 1034 00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:29,040 written by a Ghostwriter or somebody 1035 00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:34,140 because it was lacking in every detail 1036 00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:35,880 um and he claimed that Bob Lazar would 1037 00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:37,380 have remembered all those details and 1038 00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,500 included them but somehow uh 1039 00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:42,839 the book was not written John Lear 1040 00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:44,940 claimed that the book was not written by 1041 00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:46,680 Bob Lazar because there was too many 1042 00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:50,220 incorrect inaccurate details about the 1043 00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:53,220 whole story uh which is very interesting 1044 00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:56,520 and you know listen people are human I 1045 00:50:02,690 --> 00:49:59,760 think it's very believable that these 1046 00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:02,700 guys let's say for example Gene Huff was 1047 00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:05,460 instrumental in creating the hoax the 1048 00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,740 whole bablazar Mythos with Bob which 1049 00:50:11,089 --> 00:50:09,359 stands to reason because he was his 1050 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,099 business partner and right there to 1051 00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:13,680 split the money all the money Bob Lazar 1052 00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:15,660 was making with him why would you give a 1053 00:50:18,290 --> 00:50:16,560 guy 1054 00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:18,300 a cut of the money 1055 00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:20,460 just for being your friend you know I 1056 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:23,760 don't understand that but interestingly 1057 00:50:28,370 --> 00:50:26,400 um you know many people have uh there's 1058 00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:28,380 rumors and speculation that they all 1059 00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:29,880 fought over the money and when the 1060 00:50:33,650 --> 00:50:31,859 Korbel thing happened Corbell ran away 1061 00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:33,660 and again this is rumors and 1062 00:50:37,970 --> 00:50:35,220 speculations but things that I've heard 1063 00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:37,980 from multiple people close to either 1064 00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:41,700 John Lear Bob Lazar or Gene Huff you 1065 00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:45,060 know that this is a typical men fighting 1066 00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:46,920 over money there's only so much money to 1067 00:50:50,809 --> 00:50:48,780 be had from the Bob Lazar story and 1068 00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:50,819 Along Comes This Korbel guy who's going 1069 00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:53,280 to suck up all the money if Jean Huff 1070 00:50:58,190 --> 00:50:55,500 really was instrumental in creating the 1071 00:51:00,109 --> 00:50:58,200 Mythos of Bob Lazar 1072 00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:00,119 um you could imagine that he would be 1073 00:51:07,130 --> 00:51:01,980 pissed off at Corbell and want to cut it 1074 00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:08,990 and final work is we're done well John 1075 00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:11,160 how about this uh what's your question I 1076 00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:13,740 really don't know I mean I used to say 1077 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:16,020 we've got reptilians here where you're 1078 00:51:22,210 --> 00:51:19,520 lying to us about uh yeah 1079 00:51:25,309 --> 00:51:22,220 temperatures on the near Planet 1080 00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,319 uh uh what do you think the big picture 1081 00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:27,660 is I I think remember you know six seven 1082 00:51:32,510 --> 00:51:30,059 years ago not that you were necessarily 1083 00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:32,520 responsible for it but but UFO 1084 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,680 researchers always have something big is 1085 00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:36,240 going to happen at the end of this year 1086 00:51:40,849 --> 00:51:38,220 nothing big is going to happen that was 1087 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:40,859 October 92. and I made the mistake of 1088 00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:44,160 making several persons yeah so I don't 1089 00:51:48,290 --> 00:51:46,079 do that anymore I have no idea what to 1090 00:51:50,329 --> 00:51:48,300 do we don't need to you know predict a 1091 00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,339 big Invasion what do you think about 1092 00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:52,740 John Lear right before this I think it 1093 00:51:59,630 --> 00:51:55,680 was in 1992 John Lear predicted there 1094 00:52:02,990 --> 00:51:59,640 would be uh uh like basically a landing 1095 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,000 of aliens on the White House lawn and on 1096 00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:06,240 at the Kremlin and that aliens were 1097 00:52:10,490 --> 00:52:08,760 going to land and and meet with all of 1098 00:52:14,210 --> 00:52:10,500 Earth's world leaders and we were going 1099 00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:14,220 to get full-on disclosure that was 1992 1100 00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,740 uh and none of that happened so he 1101 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,440 stopped making predictions of the big 1102 00:52:24,890 --> 00:52:22,079 picture I I you know any impending doom 1103 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:24,900 or businesses the government guys that I 1104 00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:27,119 know uh all they can say is the next 1105 00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:28,920 five years are going to be very very 1106 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:30,660 interesting but we've heard that you 1107 00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:32,760 know for the last yeah remember this is 1108 00:52:36,650 --> 00:52:34,800 1995 and he's saying the next five years 1109 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,660 is going to be extremely interesting you 1110 00:52:41,650 --> 00:52:38,160 know what happened in the world of UFOs 1111 00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:41,660 from 1995 to 2000 almost nothing right 1112 00:52:48,190 --> 00:52:45,200 uh alien autopsy was the big thing from 1113 00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:48,200 that time period that's it 1114 00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,599 no disclosure 1115 00:52:57,049 --> 00:52:54,240 now you can do sit back and watching and 1116 00:52:59,450 --> 00:52:57,059 notice stuff that we know to be real 1117 00:53:03,309 --> 00:53:00,770 you're all I'm talking about the stuff 1118 00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:03,319 you told us I assume that's real 1119 00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:05,940 so John what are your thoughts on the 1120 00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:07,559 land grab out here in central Nevada 1121 00:53:12,349 --> 00:53:09,720 everyone made a big deal of it you were 1122 00:53:14,450 --> 00:53:12,359 among some of the first you Jim Goodall 1123 00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,460 Sean Martin Gary Schultz people like 1124 00:53:20,569 --> 00:53:16,800 that who climbed up and and viewed down 1125 00:53:21,730 --> 00:53:20,579 on Area 51 and and you uh how dare you 1126 00:53:25,370 --> 00:53:21,740 mentioned 1127 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:25,380 in the company with John Laird yeah so 1128 00:53:29,089 --> 00:53:27,540 apparently you know uh Alien scientists 1129 00:53:30,890 --> 00:53:29,099 saying Corbell still works as a 1130 00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:30,900 maintenance man well you know I don't 1131 00:53:35,809 --> 00:53:32,460 know if maintenance man is a proper term 1132 00:53:37,609 --> 00:53:35,819 for him you know uh superintendent I 1133 00:53:39,290 --> 00:53:37,619 guess or the guy who manages the 1134 00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,300 building apparently corbell's family 1135 00:53:45,770 --> 00:53:41,760 owns a lot of real estate like apartment 1136 00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:45,780 buildings and rental properties and uh 1137 00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:48,420 Corbell uh sucks off the teeth of his 1138 00:53:53,329 --> 00:53:51,180 parents business and money to survive I 1139 00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,339 guess because uh you know that Bob was 1140 00:53:57,049 --> 00:53:54,960 our money dried up now he's trying to do 1141 00:53:58,670 --> 00:53:57,059 the podcast thing and and 1142 00:54:00,589 --> 00:53:58,680 I don't know for somebody getting all 1143 00:54:02,270 --> 00:54:00,599 this National exposure Jeremy let me 1144 00:54:04,430 --> 00:54:02,280 know what you think but aren't his views 1145 00:54:06,410 --> 00:54:04,440 pretty light I mean he's been on Rogan 1146 00:54:08,569 --> 00:54:06,420 he's been on Fox News he's gotten all 1147 00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:08,579 this National exposure he starts a 1148 00:54:14,569 --> 00:54:12,180 podcast and sure he's beating you know 1149 00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:14,579 um people without all that exposure like 1150 00:54:19,450 --> 00:54:16,380 you or I but he's not doing too good 1151 00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:22,970 but uh you know obviously you knew that 1152 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,660 they were keeping photographically yeah 1153 00:54:28,329 --> 00:54:26,400 it feels like that right you know it 1154 00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:28,339 sounds like that 1155 00:54:31,490 --> 00:54:30,119 what do you think about all the people 1156 00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,500 whining about it when they actually 1157 00:54:37,370 --> 00:54:33,599 called the land it's not a big deal you 1158 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:37,380 know uh Area 51 is just one of many 1159 00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:40,200 areas they've got you know and they were 1160 00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:42,480 smart to draw the attention there and 1161 00:54:47,470 --> 00:54:44,040 get people from looking at where where 1162 00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:49,510 here 1163 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:52,140 for those unaware their sock puppet 1164 00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:54,000 accounts that I highly suspect are 1165 00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,520 Jeremy corbell's sock puppet accounts 1166 00:55:00,589 --> 00:54:58,920 and they bust Jeremy rise alien 1167 00:55:02,329 --> 00:55:00,599 scientist balls for being a tile 1168 00:55:04,130 --> 00:55:02,339 contractor I've seen these posts it's 1169 00:55:06,650 --> 00:55:04,140 always some brand new nameless faceless 1170 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:06,660 Twitter account that likes all of Jeremy 1171 00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:09,240 corbell's posts and says things to alien 1172 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:10,740 scientists like you should just stick 1173 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,400 the lane tile you're no scientist and uh 1174 00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:17,520 yes he is but go try making money as a 1175 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:19,260 scientist in today's economy right 1176 00:55:23,569 --> 00:55:21,240 especially a theoretical physicist or 1177 00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:23,579 something like that they do it so it's 1178 00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:25,619 good and now they're taking they're 1179 00:55:30,829 --> 00:55:27,780 taking calls so the the point of the 1180 00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:30,839 show is the UFO line and they take calls 1181 00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:32,760 from people in Las Vegas and it gets a 1182 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,520 little crazy well not crazy but this 1183 00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:37,440 this reminded me of like Art Bell 1184 00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:41,700 Collins when the wackadus would come out 1185 00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:42,740 um 1186 00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:45,900 you know yeah I know you're they're 1187 00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:48,960 dealing with this for a while and and 1188 00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:51,599 your father was different bringing up a 1189 00:56:06,720 --> 00:55:54,000 lot of experiences with the game was you 1190 00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:35,170 [Music] 1191 00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:37,549 I wish I knew somebody who lived in his 1192 00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,480 parents Apartments I would ask them if I 1193 00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:41,520 could go in there and make it take a big 1194 00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:45,440 [\h__\h] and clog up the toilets right 1195 00:56:49,309 --> 00:56:47,880 it was interesting now that I look back 1196 00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,319 to people that he used to bring home 1197 00:56:54,490 --> 00:56:52,079 when our people that you know were very 1198 00:56:57,010 --> 00:56:54,500 involved with a couple of Cups 1199 00:56:58,970 --> 00:56:57,020 [Music] 1200 00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,980 several of those guys that used to be 1201 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:00,960 home and he was referring to hear a lot 1202 00:57:05,569 --> 00:57:03,180 about us he did we got a lot of 1203 00:57:09,170 --> 00:57:05,579 criticism because he went down I think 1204 00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:09,180 it was to Bolivia to sell some uh uh 1205 00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:11,220 aircraft equipment and he was quoted by 1206 00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,380 the press as saying flying sausage were 1207 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:16,079 real and he got a lot of slack over that 1208 00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:18,570 but like I said yeah 1209 00:57:23,630 --> 00:57:21,260 [Music] 1210 00:57:51,549 --> 00:57:23,640 I wasn't interested I was interested in 1211 00:57:51,559 --> 00:58:12,850 out in the Valley of Fire 1212 00:58:17,930 --> 00:58:14,950 [Music] 1213 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:17,940 didn't know anything about what happened 1214 00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:21,599 and so yeah so welcome the Wackadoo 1215 00:58:29,630 --> 00:58:24,119 callers have found Bob Lazar Gene huff 1216 00:58:32,450 --> 00:58:30,710 come from 1217 00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:32,460 a man but I mean it was clear as a bell 1218 00:58:38,530 --> 00:58:34,980 probably had to turn at that point in 1219 00:58:42,970 --> 00:58:38,540 time but after that it's like 1220 00:58:53,770 --> 00:58:45,390 erasing people's memories 1221 00:58:59,809 --> 00:58:56,690 honestly I have never liked any form of 1222 00:59:04,910 --> 00:58:59,819 uppers cocaine methamphetamines 1223 00:59:07,609 --> 00:59:04,920 that I am a two add and like my brain 1224 00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,619 goes too fast as it is so like if I take 1225 00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:09,359 an upper 1226 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,359 I I thank God because when I was in a 1227 00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,920 music business Coke and meth were 1228 00:59:19,490 --> 00:59:16,079 everywhere I used to just give it to the 1229 00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:19,500 drummer a drummers always like speed but 1230 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,480 then that screws up the shows because 1231 00:59:26,329 --> 00:59:23,280 then they play faster than they're 1232 00:59:28,849 --> 00:59:26,339 supposed to and they swear they're not 1233 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,859 we gave one drummer who was a cokehead a 1234 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,960 click track like we made him listen in 1235 00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:33,119 headphones to a click track that was the 1236 00:59:39,470 --> 00:59:36,900 exact tempo of every song and he's you 1237 00:59:41,870 --> 00:59:39,480 know because he would just play the song 1238 00:59:43,450 --> 00:59:41,880 like 30 faster than it was supposed to 1239 00:59:46,450 --> 00:59:43,460 be played 1240 00:59:49,130 --> 00:59:46,460 uh Jeremy and Stephen pulled me from the 1241 00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:49,140 Lazar rabbit hole 1242 00:59:53,390 --> 00:59:52,140 well good to hear that uh Lord Ludacris 1243 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:53,400 and thank you for your kindness your 1244 00:59:58,910 --> 00:59:55,500 generosity and for helping us to praise 1245 01:00:03,710 --> 01:00:02,030 yeah uh quite a few people I think we've 1246 01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:03,720 pulled from the Lazar rabbit hole and 1247 01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:05,220 you have to remember that both Jeremy 1248 01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:08,160 and I were both down and we grew up with 1249 01:00:13,370 --> 01:00:10,260 that story both of us and we both wanted 1250 01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,380 to believe it you know so bad uh but 1251 01:00:20,049 --> 01:00:15,119 when you start peeling back the layers 1252 01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:23,030 in her memory for that whole time is 1253 01:00:27,589 --> 01:00:25,140 just I mean there's nothing there she 1254 01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:27,599 has uh you know flagships of weird stuff 1255 01:00:43,309 --> 01:00:41,450 because if a person could open up 1256 01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,319 everything that's that's you know of 1257 01:00:48,190 --> 01:00:45,839 course the government yeah they're over 1258 01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:48,200 prescribed 1259 01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:52,559 the purpose of of how bad they defeat 1260 01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:54,180 the government is performing to everyone 1261 01:00:58,690 --> 01:00:55,280 you know 1262 01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:58,700 Daniel Adams 1263 01:01:03,829 --> 01:01:01,680 if you say so I don't like it everybody 1264 01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:03,839 has the things they like right I never 1265 01:01:13,549 --> 01:01:10,730 there was always a woman that made me 1266 01:01:15,710 --> 01:01:13,559 try cocaine it was always like I ran a 1267 01:01:17,210 --> 01:01:15,720 nightclub and you know some music 1268 01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:17,220 business so I was playing all these 1269 01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:19,740 shows there was always a woman that had 1270 01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,040 a bag big bag of coke and they would you 1271 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:25,440 know oh you want to do some lines now no 1272 01:01:30,289 --> 01:01:28,740 you go ahead I'm good uh but the few 1273 01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:30,299 times I tried it I had a terrible 1274 01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:33,180 experience I had a nosebleed I hated it 1275 01:01:37,789 --> 01:01:35,160 I just felt like uh 1276 01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:37,799 you know I don't understand you know 1277 01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:39,240 like I said everybody else thinks they 1278 01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:41,940 like uh I agree with you I never liked 1279 01:01:49,089 --> 01:01:44,040 it ever 1280 01:02:02,049 --> 01:01:51,410 the person who really killed Kennedy's 1281 01:02:06,770 --> 01:02:04,609 who really pulled me out was Stanton 1282 01:02:08,750 --> 01:02:06,780 Freeman because I I started talking to 1283 01:02:10,670 --> 01:02:08,760 him and I was still on the fence and he 1284 01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:10,680 was like no no go look into this go look 1285 01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:13,140 into this research this go talk to this 1286 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:15,119 person go talk to that person and when I 1287 01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:17,520 was done with the Stanton Freeman 1288 01:02:34,569 --> 01:02:21,000 scavenger hunt for Bob Lazar truth I I 1289 01:02:34,579 --> 01:03:21,549 his father 1290 01:03:27,470 --> 01:03:24,349 I'm sure I I would be diagnosed with ADD 1291 01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,480 and uh I I tried that and it didn't I 1292 01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:30,240 didn't like it so you know 1293 01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:33,000 was the very what is it seven seconds or 1294 01:03:37,069 --> 01:03:34,799 whatever you generally get now they're 1295 01:03:39,049 --> 01:03:37,079 talking about this horror films where 1296 01:03:41,210 --> 01:03:39,059 the president got there uh almost got to 1297 01:03:43,609 --> 01:03:41,220 the grassy knoll of of everywhere just 1298 01:03:44,990 --> 01:03:43,619 general area Scott someone well it had 1299 01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:45,000 to be a short time because there was 1300 01:03:50,569 --> 01:03:47,579 only five episodes produced five one 1301 01:03:53,770 --> 01:03:50,579 hour episodes produced I'm in possession 1302 01:03:57,049 --> 01:03:53,780 of one or maybe two uh I have to check 1303 01:03:59,450 --> 01:03:57,059 so we're looking for the other four of 1304 01:04:02,510 --> 01:03:59,460 these because we'd like to preserve them 1305 01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:02,520 uh for the sake of History preceded all 1306 01:04:06,650 --> 01:04:04,020 of that on the film and that's what well 1307 01:04:09,049 --> 01:04:06,660 what was that photographed do we know 1308 01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:09,059 that well yeah there was the Pruder film 1309 01:04:12,770 --> 01:04:11,220 taken before the little cliffview I see 1310 01:04:15,770 --> 01:04:12,780 of Canada how's the grass you know and 1311 01:04:18,109 --> 01:04:15,780 around the general area I agree Fox's 1312 01:04:22,030 --> 01:04:18,119 friends everybody has what they prefer I 1313 01:04:24,530 --> 01:04:22,040 prefer that actually photographs yeah 1314 01:04:27,770 --> 01:04:24,540 about their drivers 1315 01:04:29,690 --> 01:04:27,780 um bill was his name and I know his last 1316 01:04:36,370 --> 01:04:29,700 name and stuff like that but he's dead 1317 01:04:41,210 --> 01:04:39,710 I'm putting these up uh Lou for his 1318 01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:41,220 history's sake 1319 01:04:49,130 --> 01:04:45,119 and um you know preserving them I have 1320 01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,140 one maybe two I think I had one in some 1321 01:04:55,250 --> 01:04:52,079 of my archives but I had a different one 1322 01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:55,260 not this one I remember but I got to dig 1323 01:04:59,630 --> 01:04:58,140 through uh you know all these folders to 1324 01:05:01,730 --> 01:04:59,640 look for it 1325 01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:01,740 um I'm hoping that some viewers or 1326 01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,140 somebody will send us the other four and 1327 01:05:07,849 --> 01:05:06,240 then I will clean them up and post them 1328 01:05:11,030 --> 01:05:07,859 here and you're free to do whatever you 1329 01:05:13,970 --> 01:05:11,040 want uh fair use is fair use and we want 1330 01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:13,980 to thank sizzix for two things one for 1331 01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:17,579 being a member and two uh for 1332 01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:19,619 throwing some money in our hat tonight 1333 01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:27,170 birthday guys 1334 01:05:36,490 --> 01:05:33,480 [Music] 1335 01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:36,500 praise it thank you 1336 01:05:43,630 --> 01:05:38,760 Dad I thought he was live and learning 1337 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:49,450 uh Cincinnati one 1991 I think 1338 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:51,829 okay well thanks for the call and thank 1339 01:05:57,410 --> 01:06:06,770 [Music] 1340 01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,049 well that's that's kind of our fault we 1341 01:06:13,849 --> 01:06:11,599 really don't even feel like going down 1342 01:06:16,510 --> 01:06:13,859 it's a casual thing but thanks for the 1343 01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:18,410 I don't know what I'm gonna do about 1344 01:06:23,569 --> 01:06:20,099 that I guess I'm going to leave it on 1345 01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:23,579 and and see what happens uh is this 1346 01:06:28,190 --> 01:06:26,160 transformative work because uh I cleaned 1347 01:06:30,470 --> 01:06:28,200 them all up and digitally restored them 1348 01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:30,480 so it's you know I don't know it's a 1349 01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:32,280 gray area 1350 01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:34,680 um but if they if somebody happens to 1351 01:06:39,230 --> 01:06:37,440 strike these down and by the way all of 1352 01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,240 this stuff is disappearing from the 1353 01:06:44,270 --> 01:06:42,119 internet Lou like all the old George 1354 01:06:47,089 --> 01:06:44,280 Knapp lectures where he talks about Bob 1355 01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:47,099 Lazar all the old Bob Lazar radio 1356 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,260 interviews it's all melting off the 1357 01:06:53,089 --> 01:06:50,880 internet and I think that there's a 1358 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:53,099 reason for that but if I get them I'll 1359 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:55,980 put them up uh and and uh we'll see what 1360 01:06:59,930 --> 01:06:57,839 happens if we sleep on the root off of 1361 01:07:01,789 --> 01:06:59,940 the post-naval trip all right I hate 1362 01:07:04,010 --> 01:07:01,799 that when that happened okay thank you 1363 01:07:06,170 --> 01:07:04,020 banana all right kind of generous 99 1364 01:07:10,450 --> 01:07:06,180 super sticker thanks for being a member 1365 01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:12,829 and if you're on a cell phone you can 1366 01:07:18,430 --> 01:07:14,760 hit star at 12 30 if you'd like to ask 1367 01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:18,440 John later or any other any questions 1368 01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:21,420 John uh you you know you're from one of 1369 01:07:24,829 --> 01:07:23,400 a central Hub you're you're a high 1370 01:07:26,809 --> 01:07:24,839 profile guy and a lot of people 1371 01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:26,819 approaching it look I'm gonna I'm only 1372 01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:28,619 gonna address this issue one more time 1373 01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:30,000 because I addressed it at the beginning 1374 01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:33,900 of the broadcast what I got was so noisy 1375 01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,720 and terrible I I you you couldn't hear 1376 01:07:40,849 --> 01:07:38,160 anything 1377 01:07:43,849 --> 01:07:40,859 I ran this through several noise filters 1378 01:07:46,849 --> 01:07:43,859 and then I equalized it so what you're 1379 01:07:49,370 --> 01:07:46,859 hearing is an enhanced improved version 1380 01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:49,380 I did the best that I could you know I 1381 01:07:53,450 --> 01:07:50,640 don't have a 1382 01:07:55,849 --> 01:07:53,460 I I have excellent audio software but it 1383 01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:55,859 can only do so much before it starts to 1384 01:08:01,309 --> 01:07:58,559 just really twist what's there to begin 1385 01:08:04,370 --> 01:08:01,319 with and it sounds uh crazy and 1386 01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:04,380 artificial so I apologize for the audio 1387 01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,660 quality uh it's the best that I could do 1388 01:08:10,910 --> 01:08:08,880 I believe about being abducted and you 1389 01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:10,920 know I I know that a lot of people even 1390 01:08:15,529 --> 01:08:13,020 approach you that work at Nellis Air 1391 01:08:17,329 --> 01:08:15,539 Force Base and other places I can I 1392 01:08:19,130 --> 01:08:17,339 presume that you conclude by now that 1393 01:08:20,209 --> 01:08:19,140 not all of these people can be crazy and 1394 01:08:23,390 --> 01:08:20,219 not all of them are searching for 1395 01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:23,400 attention I mean you've seen a number of 1396 01:08:27,289 --> 01:08:25,500 people what about we get asked all the 1397 01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,299 time about so whatever happened to John 1398 01:08:31,550 --> 01:08:29,279 Grace the guy that wrote those uh 1399 01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:31,560 Vladimir Valerian malaria whatever 1400 01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:34,259 Vladimir moved to Oregon and uh he has 1401 01:08:39,050 --> 01:08:36,600 their real nice uh business going he 1402 01:08:40,990 --> 01:08:39,060 still writes that look forget what the 1403 01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:41,000 name of this magazine was 1404 01:08:46,249 --> 01:08:43,380 he's doing well what did he do for an 1405 01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:46,259 hour right now he was a tech sergeant 1406 01:08:52,329 --> 01:08:49,560 and uh he works yeah somebody recorded 1407 01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:52,339 it off the radio disaster 1408 01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:54,719 I think that somebody was right that's 1409 01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:56,279 why there was that bleed over in the 1410 01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:57,600 beginning that it sounded like music 1411 01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:00,080 Somebody recorded this off of the radio 1412 01:09:06,890 --> 01:09:04,020 and it survives all this time from 1995 1413 01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:06,900 somehow got posted on YouTube and got 1414 01:09:11,329 --> 01:09:08,160 put through compression after 1415 01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:11,339 compression probably and then I got it 1416 01:09:15,229 --> 01:09:13,319 and cleaned it up the very best that I 1417 01:09:18,289 --> 01:09:15,239 can so all we could do is the best that 1418 01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:18,299 we can it's all you can you can you can 1419 01:09:21,470 --> 01:09:19,980 understand it it's noisy the 1420 01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:21,480 background's noisy maybe I'll try 1421 01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:22,859 running it through another filter before 1422 01:09:32,050 --> 01:09:26,339 I post it without the commentary 1423 01:09:35,870 --> 01:09:34,189 this is going to be a weekly thing 1424 01:09:37,849 --> 01:09:35,880 remember why there's so much stuff going 1425 01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,859 on first of all up at Ground we have two 1426 01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:39,779 new proof of Concepts ready to fly one 1427 01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:41,580 will fly next week and the other around 1428 01:09:46,189 --> 01:09:44,580 March and both are very very fast and 1429 01:09:47,630 --> 01:09:46,199 you remember that helicopter we built 1430 01:09:49,249 --> 01:09:47,640 about 10 years ago that could carry 1431 01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:49,259 around yeah so here John Lair is talking 1432 01:09:54,110 --> 01:09:52,380 about what's going on at Area 51 and at 1433 01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:54,120 the time and for quite some time after 1434 01:09:57,709 --> 01:09:56,100 this and before this he was known to be 1435 01:10:00,050 --> 01:09:57,719 like the world's leading expert about 1436 01:10:04,130 --> 01:10:00,060 what's really going on what are they 1437 01:10:07,010 --> 01:10:04,140 testing at Area 51 150 troops now we 1438 01:10:10,510 --> 01:10:07,020 have one that can carry 600 fully armed 1439 01:10:13,390 --> 01:10:10,520 combat great troops 1440 01:10:16,010 --> 01:10:13,400 Nostalgia 1441 01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:16,020 we have a new computer that is a billion 1442 01:10:20,209 --> 01:10:17,820 times faster than the investment in 1443 01:10:22,910 --> 01:10:20,219 commercial use today okay so here's 1444 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,920 where we get into the BS he said that at 1445 01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:25,260 Area 51 they have a computer that is a 1446 01:10:29,149 --> 01:10:27,480 billion times faster than anything we 1447 01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:29,159 have today 1448 01:10:34,189 --> 01:10:32,219 no uh I don't think so and I don't know 1449 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,199 I'm just a guy with a computer science 1450 01:10:37,790 --> 01:10:36,239 background what do I know right but if 1451 01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:37,800 there was a computer that was a billion 1452 01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:41,520 times faster than anything in 1995 we'd 1453 01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:43,199 be a little further along right now with 1454 01:10:49,729 --> 01:10:47,520 AI and cancer research and the seti and 1455 01:10:53,570 --> 01:10:49,739 and so many other tasks that require 1456 01:10:55,729 --> 01:10:53,580 massive computational resources hey do 1457 01:10:58,090 --> 01:10:55,739 you know who invented the internet 1458 01:11:01,610 --> 01:10:58,100 he was DARPA the defensive 1459 01:11:03,470 --> 01:11:01,620 thing they did it in 1967. what they 1460 01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,480 first saw was the exponents were used to 1461 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:05,280 the personal computer and saw the 1462 01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:07,320 internet as a direct way into homes 1463 01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:09,600 hearts and minds of the public this 1464 01:11:14,510 --> 01:11:11,880 computer up at Sandia can track what 1465 01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:14,520 anybody ever wrote or said or aware of 1466 01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:16,620 anybody ever went on the internet with 1467 01:11:21,890 --> 01:11:20,280 their PC and I agree whether your PC is 1468 01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:21,900 on or not they can access your hard 1469 01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:24,360 drive anytime they want and hey what's 1470 01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:27,659 going on at tonoplier okay so this is 1471 01:11:32,689 --> 01:11:31,140 1995 remember early internet and John 1472 01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:32,699 Lear is saying that through the internet 1473 01:11:37,370 --> 01:11:35,940 they can access your hard drives and do 1474 01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:37,380 anything they want while you're 1475 01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:39,420 connected and uh 1476 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,420 while that is certainly not true you 1477 01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,880 know maybe he had some general idea 1478 01:11:49,010 --> 01:11:47,280 about how intrusive the internet would 1479 01:11:51,050 --> 01:11:49,020 become and thank you Anthony Peterson 1480 01:11:52,669 --> 01:11:51,060 for kind of generous five dollars says 1481 01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,679 saying Thanks for the Memories I 1482 01:11:56,450 --> 01:11:54,480 remember reading about Lazar and Omni 1483 01:11:59,330 --> 01:11:56,460 magazine in college and was intrigued by 1484 01:12:02,030 --> 01:11:59,340 his story too bad it didn't hold up yeah 1485 01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:02,040 too bad but thank you for helping us to 1486 01:12:05,630 --> 01:12:03,780 praise the cash we're happy to bring you 1487 01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:05,640 these memories and more we're going to 1488 01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,320 try to do Nostalgia night like this once 1489 01:12:11,810 --> 01:12:09,360 in a while thank you Anthony Peterson 1490 01:12:14,570 --> 01:12:11,820 for your kindness generosity and support 1491 01:12:16,850 --> 01:12:14,580 the gas breaks the cash 1492 01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,860 thank you very much Anthony we have the 1493 01:12:21,050 --> 01:12:18,239 new counter and students here playing 1494 01:12:23,810 --> 01:12:21,060 this being used out at Aviano in the 1495 01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:23,820 Bosnian yeah maybe they wasn't so tied 1496 01:12:28,130 --> 01:12:26,340 at the TTR but now they have three 1497 01:12:30,290 --> 01:12:28,140 senses instead of one and the entire 1498 01:12:32,270 --> 01:12:30,300 support team which consists of about 350 1499 01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:32,280 people her ability to ride out the 1500 01:12:36,770 --> 01:12:33,900 flight line instead of back down at the 1501 01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:36,780 gate like when the F-117 came out and 1502 01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,120 speaking of the 117a whatever happened 1503 01:12:44,510 --> 01:12:42,239 to the f-19 the s19 went down in the 1504 01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:44,520 thinkers assembly line right next to the 1505 01:12:49,790 --> 01:12:48,060 117 used the same engines 404s but was 1506 01:12:52,130 --> 01:12:49,800 an 80 word and was a Batwing type 1507 01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:52,140 aircraft they made about 60 of them it 1508 01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:54,360 turns out that the f-117a was just a 1509 01:12:58,430 --> 01:12:56,760 cover for this other eye techer and 1510 01:13:00,110 --> 01:12:58,440 exactly what's flying out of the 1511 01:13:01,729 --> 01:13:00,120 northern yeah that that's pretty 1512 01:13:03,410 --> 01:13:01,739 important a guy says well he's not 1513 01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:03,420 interested in UFOs then what's he doing 1514 01:13:07,209 --> 01:13:06,000 with the UFO call-in Radio Show in Las 1515 01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:07,219 Vegas in 1516 01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,100 1995. and by the way I'm aware of many 1517 01:13:15,189 --> 01:13:13,440 failed let's call them failed business 1518 01:13:18,890 --> 01:13:15,199 Adventures that 1519 01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:18,900 Babylon for uh and and it seems like 1520 01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:21,679 Gene Huff was the one to my 1521 01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:23,820 observations it seemed like Gene Huff 1522 01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:25,560 was the one that was trying to 1523 01:13:31,010 --> 01:13:28,140 you know capitalize on Bob's Fame and 1524 01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:31,020 make some money and Bob always plays The 1525 01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,640 Reluctant oh I don't even want to be 1526 01:13:37,729 --> 01:13:34,400 here you know 1527 01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:37,739 it's black and it's bad so all you can 1528 01:13:42,410 --> 01:13:39,780 see at night is a contrail which looks 1529 01:13:44,689 --> 01:13:42,420 like a green neon tube yeah maybe we'll 1530 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:44,699 get some of the best and try that around 1531 01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:47,520 Idaho between midnight and 4 a.m that 1532 01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:49,380 dude really gets along about four or 1533 01:13:53,630 --> 01:13:50,760 five thousand miles an hour at low 1534 01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,640 altitude and flying saucers apparently 1535 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,440 the alien can't fly any better now than 1536 01:13:59,390 --> 01:13:57,840 they could in 1947 because we recovered 1537 01:14:01,729 --> 01:13:59,400 two of them in the past year right here 1538 01:14:03,530 --> 01:14:01,739 in Nevada one came down between the dam 1539 01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,540 and King then about a month or so ago 1540 01:14:08,149 --> 01:14:05,280 and one in Northern Nevada last year 1541 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:08,159 okay so this is 1995 and he's saying 1542 01:14:12,729 --> 01:14:11,340 that they recovered two UF OS in Kingman 1543 01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:12,739 Nevada 1544 01:14:17,630 --> 01:14:15,179 uh no evidence or proof of that has 1545 01:14:19,250 --> 01:14:17,640 surfaced since 1995 so I'm gonna call 1546 01:14:21,350 --> 01:14:19,260 that story Bowl 1547 01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:21,360 and that's it for the test site update 1548 01:14:26,930 --> 01:14:24,960 for Friday December 22nd 1995. this is 1549 01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:26,940 John Wayne Barbers are wishing all of 1550 01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:28,440 you a debt one and hey don't want to 1551 01:14:32,169 --> 01:14:30,239 forget you guys over at station nine a 1552 01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:32,179 very Merry Christmas 1553 01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,520 yeah that's the area 51 report 1554 01:14:40,729 --> 01:14:38,159 okay we recovered two flying saucers but 1555 01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:40,739 he offers he just says it like that's a 1556 01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:43,380 trust me dude story you know no evidence 1557 01:14:48,290 --> 01:14:45,480 nothing just oh yeah we recovered two 1558 01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:48,300 flying saucers great now who can argue 1559 01:14:54,179 --> 01:14:57,250 um 1560 01:15:01,070 --> 01:14:59,270 that's what they're trying to get rid of 1561 01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,080 that's why it's all melting off the 1562 01:15:06,590 --> 01:15:03,360 internet right now it's all disappearing 1563 01:15:09,729 --> 01:15:06,600 all this stuff your hard drive in a PC 1564 01:15:12,530 --> 01:15:09,739 whether or not your computer's on yeah 1565 01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:12,540 about as hard as you can get that's 1566 01:15:15,649 --> 01:15:14,460 exactly how would they manage your feet 1567 01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:15,659 like that 1568 01:15:19,070 --> 01:15:17,760 uh well I don't know what's that aside 1569 01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:19,080 from them coming over and turning it on 1570 01:15:30,770 --> 01:15:28,610 oh we got it from Bill Cooper he takes a 1571 01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:30,780 lot of plaque but you know we we named 1572 01:15:34,970 --> 01:15:32,940 the disease that Bill Cooper got with as 1573 01:15:37,130 --> 01:15:34,980 many of us guys call the UFO disease 1574 01:15:39,770 --> 01:15:37,140 right and the UFO disease when you start 1575 01:15:41,630 --> 01:15:39,780 out in this business and and uh you hear 1576 01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:41,640 you know and see some stuff that really 1577 01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:44,159 happens real real but uh you start 1578 01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:46,980 adding on to it and and like Billy just 1579 01:15:51,490 --> 01:15:48,780 he just got too far out he started 1580 01:15:54,890 --> 01:15:51,500 taking stuff that I had in my files 1581 01:15:56,330 --> 01:15:54,900 yeah and then this is awesome so John 1582 01:15:58,010 --> 01:15:56,340 Lear is right here talking about 1583 01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,020 something we've talked about which is 1584 01:16:01,610 --> 01:15:59,760 UFO disease 1585 01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:01,620 his version is a little different is 1586 01:16:05,930 --> 01:16:03,480 that you just take stuff and add on to 1587 01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:05,940 it so he's saying that Bill Cooper got 1588 01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:07,800 UFO disease and started believing 1589 01:16:11,930 --> 01:16:08,940 anything 1590 01:16:15,290 --> 01:16:11,940 years later John Lear would suffer from 1591 01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:15,300 that very same so-called UFO disease and 1592 01:16:20,689 --> 01:16:17,040 just start taking things and adding on 1593 01:16:23,390 --> 01:16:20,699 to it with no evidence believing anybody 1594 01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:23,400 who told you something uh that's 1595 01:16:27,470 --> 01:16:25,080 interesting that John Lear is here 1596 01:16:29,870 --> 01:16:27,480 talking about your disease uh there's 1597 01:16:32,090 --> 01:16:29,880 different definitions for it not a 1598 01:16:35,149 --> 01:16:32,100 general mission is that when people 1599 01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:35,159 start off they are the most credible and 1600 01:16:40,729 --> 01:16:37,140 as time goes on they get less and less 1601 01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,739 credible because it becomes draining to 1602 01:16:44,330 --> 01:16:42,719 try to find evidence that does not exist 1603 01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:44,340 So eventually just start accepting 1604 01:16:50,330 --> 01:16:47,940 shoddy evidence or poor evidence and 1605 01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:50,340 yeah 1606 01:16:55,250 --> 01:16:52,860 Gigi Abby Lynn with kind of generous 11 1607 01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:55,260 and 30 cents saying thanks Steven no 1608 01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:56,640 thank you and thank you for your 1609 01:17:00,169 --> 01:16:58,199 kindness your generosity and your 1610 01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:00,179 support of the show we also want to take 1611 01:17:04,189 --> 01:17:02,400 this opportunity Thanks To Gigi Abby 1612 01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:04,199 Lynn to thank all you kind of generous 1613 01:17:08,510 --> 01:17:05,820 patreon supporters you twitch 1614 01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:08,520 subscribers and you channel members 1615 01:17:16,930 --> 01:17:11,820 thank you all especially Gigi Abby Lynn 1616 01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:19,330 please 1617 01:17:26,410 --> 01:17:22,320 thank you for your kindness thank you 1618 01:17:33,229 --> 01:17:26,420 for your generosity cash 1619 01:17:37,490 --> 01:17:35,750 thank you all for your kindness and my 1620 01:17:39,470 --> 01:17:37,500 favorites here in fact maybe you should 1621 01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:39,480 you know please our audience and tell 1622 01:17:44,510 --> 01:17:42,239 them the story about oh Krill uh that oh 1623 01:17:46,430 --> 01:17:44,520 Krill was a name that you and John Gray 1624 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,440 said had given to yeah for the people 1625 01:17:51,490 --> 01:17:48,480 that don't know who which Krill was that 1626 01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:54,590 at treaties or something on aliens that 1627 01:17:57,890 --> 01:17:56,400 he wanted to talk to public should know 1628 01:17:59,630 --> 01:17:57,900 and I forget what it was all about but 1629 01:18:02,030 --> 01:17:59,640 he didn't want to put his name so he 1630 01:18:04,490 --> 01:18:02,040 said well how can we uh who think we 1631 01:18:06,050 --> 01:18:04,500 used I said well you know the Navy had 1632 01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:06,060 an incident 1633 01:18:14,590 --> 01:18:09,300 um that uh they supposedly contacted him 1634 01:18:20,209 --> 01:18:18,250 why don't we call uh this guy Krill 1635 01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,219 k-r-i-l-l and it'll be just kind of an 1636 01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:23,040 inside gel and so John says okay and how 1637 01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:24,480 about some initials and I said I don't 1638 01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,239 know I'll pick one he said oh 1639 01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:29,280 so then uh Josh stood for only hostage 1640 01:18:39,310 --> 01:18:31,080 or something original original hostage 1641 01:18:44,209 --> 01:18:42,229 and the oh stood for original hostage 1642 01:18:47,410 --> 01:18:44,219 and we just put those initials out of 1643 01:18:50,570 --> 01:18:47,420 state and he had read that whole report 1644 01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:50,580 so about this uh flying disc that they 1645 01:18:55,490 --> 01:18:53,460 what it there was an oh one second let's 1646 01:18:58,490 --> 01:18:55,500 recognize here Bobby Broadway long time 1647 01:19:00,350 --> 01:18:58,500 show supporter and live chat member just 1648 01:19:02,990 --> 01:19:00,360 became a YouTube member so thank you 1649 01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:03,000 Bobby Broadway you can enjoy some extra 1650 01:19:07,729 --> 01:19:05,880 benefits including uh some extra goodies 1651 01:19:10,370 --> 01:19:07,739 in the members only section you get your 1652 01:19:23,169 --> 01:19:10,380 members badge now thank you for helping 1653 01:19:27,350 --> 01:19:25,970 and uh what wasn't able to fly away or 1654 01:19:30,169 --> 01:19:27,360 did someone have to go pick it up no 1655 01:19:33,410 --> 01:19:30,179 supposedly there was some staged a 1656 01:19:34,910 --> 01:19:33,420 chemical accident or Road accident or 1657 01:19:38,090 --> 01:19:34,920 something where people were diverted 1658 01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:38,100 from the dam uh for a day or so so that 1659 01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:39,840 they could recover them oh that's what 1660 01:19:44,630 --> 01:19:41,760 that story was behind that spilled up so 1661 01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:44,640 1995 and stories of crashed flying 1662 01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:46,440 saucers being recovered by the 1663 01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:48,360 government does any of that sound 1664 01:19:52,130 --> 01:19:51,120 familiar maybe just maybe we're in a 1665 01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:52,140 Time Loop 1666 01:19:56,990 --> 01:19:54,840 and uh if CW Chandler's theories are 1667 01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,000 correct those go in 10-year increments 1668 01:20:04,850 --> 01:20:00,000 so 10 20 30 in just a few years now it 1669 01:20:09,370 --> 01:20:04,860 will be UFO crash and crash retrieval 1670 01:20:13,850 --> 01:20:12,110 well they did close I remember in the in 1671 01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:13,860 recent months they did close the demo 1672 01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,679 somebody told me that and I remember 1673 01:20:20,209 --> 01:20:17,760 Laughlin and church writers I remember 1674 01:20:21,890 --> 01:20:20,219 that there was an accident with with uh 1675 01:20:23,450 --> 01:20:21,900 from the Taiwanese or something but I 1676 01:20:24,830 --> 01:20:23,460 didn't remember spill when the guy told 1677 01:20:26,570 --> 01:20:24,840 me this garage trying to think no I 1678 01:20:28,189 --> 01:20:26,580 didn't even know 1679 01:20:29,470 --> 01:20:28,199 now where was the other grass you said 1680 01:20:32,689 --> 01:20:29,480 there were two of them 1681 01:20:34,910 --> 01:20:32,699 oh and and why do you think it is that 1682 01:20:38,270 --> 01:20:34,920 these things uh crashed especially if 1683 01:20:39,890 --> 01:20:38,280 I'm presuming these are yeah one of the 1684 01:20:41,330 --> 01:20:39,900 huge questions that people always have 1685 01:20:43,850 --> 01:20:41,340 is how can they come from other star 1686 01:20:46,370 --> 01:20:43,860 systems and still somehow crash 1687 01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:46,380 well I would think that any machine is 1688 01:20:52,729 --> 01:20:49,679 capable of failing but uh I'm interested 1689 01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,739 let's hear what John lear's uh 1690 01:20:56,990 --> 01:20:55,199 he was just to ask why do they crash are 1691 01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:57,000 capable of interstellar travel or are 1692 01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:58,560 they some type of scout shits out of a 1693 01:21:01,370 --> 01:21:00,000 Mothership I'm just curious as to why 1694 01:21:03,470 --> 01:21:01,380 they would be able to fly her from 1695 01:21:04,610 --> 01:21:03,480 another star system and then crash so 1696 01:21:06,890 --> 01:21:04,620 routinely 1697 01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:06,900 step questions asked along you know a 1698 01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:16,310 boy I don't know maybe it's an 1699 01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:18,480 explanation so it's not hard for me to 1700 01:21:23,570 --> 01:21:20,880 digest this I mean I can understand 1701 01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:23,580 well I'm not even going to start a fight 1702 01:21:27,709 --> 01:21:26,100 so are you uh go ahead we'll uh we'll 1703 01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:27,719 we'll start it here we can end it up in 1704 01:21:34,430 --> 01:21:32,630 so have you uh have you been walking 1705 01:21:36,590 --> 01:21:34,440 back into the general U-Haul Community I 1706 01:21:38,209 --> 01:21:36,600 remember it wasn't in the early 90s had 1707 01:21:45,310 --> 01:21:38,219 they tried to ban you from the muffin 1708 01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:48,790 Convention here in 1989 I guess it was 1709 01:21:55,370 --> 01:21:52,020 and uh it was it was it was a real 1710 01:21:58,010 --> 01:21:55,380 popular but uh I kind of was disinvited 1711 01:22:00,530 --> 01:21:58,020 I couldn't speak at my own uh uh hosted 1712 01:22:02,510 --> 01:22:00,540 convention yeah this is interesting move 1713 01:22:03,649 --> 01:22:02,520 fun and John Lear had it falling out in 1714 01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:03,659 the 90s 1715 01:22:09,470 --> 01:22:06,780 and so John Lear started his own UFO 1716 01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:09,480 convention on the same day and time and 1717 01:22:14,750 --> 01:22:12,960 city as mufons and it was a big it was a 1718 01:22:17,090 --> 01:22:14,760 big drama battle for a while between the 1719 01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:17,100 two of them and I did a little talk in 1720 01:22:22,850 --> 01:22:19,860 all the two nights thank you Third Coast 1721 01:22:27,790 --> 01:22:22,860 Swing good job so I quit talking about 1722 01:22:31,970 --> 01:22:30,830 six years thank you for calling me in 1723 01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:31,980 one day and they said you don't actually 1724 01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:34,140 believe in science ashes Duty and I said 1725 01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:35,460 well yeah as a matter of fact I do them 1726 01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:36,900 they said well we can't have anybody 1727 01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:39,420 working here yeah John Lear was 1728 01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:42,239 verifiably fired from several jobs just 1729 01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:44,699 for being a UFO believer because they 1730 01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:45,840 didn't want somebody that was a 1731 01:22:49,729 --> 01:22:47,640 commercial airline pilot who was a 1732 01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:49,739 wackadoo essentially is what they told 1733 01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:51,420 him here he talks about a little bit 1734 01:22:56,330 --> 01:22:53,940 more blind passengers who believe that 1735 01:22:58,729 --> 01:22:56,340 so I lost that one so the next one I had 1736 01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:58,739 was with orbital sciences and horrible 1737 01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:01,380 Sciences operates CL 1011 that carries 1738 01:23:06,350 --> 01:23:04,500 the Pegasus rocket that that launches 1739 01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:06,360 payloads uh yeah there's no such thing 1740 01:23:11,090 --> 01:23:08,520 there's always byproduct and uh I was 1741 01:23:12,709 --> 01:23:11,100 hired as a project pilot and the senior 1742 01:23:14,330 --> 01:23:12,719 project manager called me up one day and 1743 01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:14,340 said John we applied for your clearance 1744 01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:16,080 and I don't know try again I don't know 1745 01:23:19,790 --> 01:23:17,640 that's where your U.S Air Force you're 1746 01:23:24,050 --> 01:23:19,800 now Google's conspiring against us 1747 01:23:27,169 --> 01:23:25,790 so you don't need to pay those bills 1748 01:23:29,330 --> 01:23:27,179 absolutely 1749 01:23:32,030 --> 01:23:29,340 um so listen let's you've been around 1750 01:23:33,890 --> 01:23:32,040 certainly involved ufology as long as 1751 01:23:35,649 --> 01:23:33,900 just about anyone you've seen the person 1752 01:23:38,390 --> 01:23:35,659 I think that was just drama 1753 01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:38,400 evolve unfold and even change so maybe 1754 01:23:42,830 --> 01:23:39,960 we could go down the line here and 1755 01:23:44,510 --> 01:23:42,840 here's some gossip and uh exactly what 1756 01:23:46,010 --> 01:23:44,520 your thoughts are on these people how 1757 01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:46,020 they started off and what their stance 1758 01:23:50,030 --> 01:23:47,520 is now for instance let's start off with 1759 01:23:52,669 --> 01:23:50,040 Stanton Friedman my buddy Stan obviously 1760 01:23:54,110 --> 01:23:52,679 Sandy Friedman did a lot of good so 1761 01:23:56,270 --> 01:23:54,120 here's where they talk [\h__\h] on stamp 1762 01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,280 Freeman uh he went to bat certainly 1763 01:24:01,070 --> 01:23:58,080 believes that the Earth is being visited 1764 01:24:02,750 --> 01:24:01,080 by life from elsewhere uh specializes in 1765 01:24:04,010 --> 01:24:02,760 the old-fashioned muffine stuff here's 1766 01:24:07,010 --> 01:24:04,020 some crosstalk Freedom of Information 1767 01:24:08,689 --> 01:24:07,020 Act documents blah blah blah in recent 1768 01:24:11,209 --> 01:24:08,699 days on the internet I've seen a lot of 1769 01:24:13,010 --> 01:24:11,219 criticism of Friedman that uh out 1770 01:24:14,810 --> 01:24:13,020 somewhere he won't answer questions for 1771 01:24:17,090 --> 01:24:14,820 people unless they buy one of his books 1772 01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,100 and and he signs it and and people have 1773 01:24:21,530 --> 01:24:18,960 attributed some sort of a change in his 1774 01:24:23,330 --> 01:24:21,540 personality have you seen that uh yeah I 1775 01:24:24,169 --> 01:24:23,340 haven't talked to Stan in many years uh 1776 01:24:30,430 --> 01:24:24,179 I 1777 01:24:34,010 --> 01:24:30,440 far as he went what tournament yeah 1778 01:24:36,169 --> 01:24:34,020 when uh Bob came out and talked about 1779 01:24:38,630 --> 01:24:36,179 working at the test site and Stanton was 1780 01:24:40,490 --> 01:24:38,640 in town uh just about the time this was 1781 01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:40,500 all going on up at my house and he 1782 01:24:45,290 --> 01:24:42,840 didn't even make the slightest you know 1783 01:24:48,050 --> 01:24:45,300 request to me Bob or talk to him and I 1784 01:24:50,030 --> 01:24:48,060 wanted here's the supposed Premier UFO 1785 01:24:52,490 --> 01:24:50,040 researcher of the century and he doesn't 1786 01:24:54,110 --> 01:24:52,500 even want to talk to Bob so it kind of 1787 01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,120 turned me off to stand okay by the way 1788 01:24:58,250 --> 01:24:55,920 Stanton Freeman tells a completely 1789 01:25:00,729 --> 01:24:58,260 different story in which he tried to 1790 01:25:03,890 --> 01:25:00,739 meet with Bob Lazar three separate times 1791 01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:03,900 and uh Bob Lazar canceled or made 1792 01:25:09,290 --> 01:25:07,440 excuses and one might I I don't believe 1793 01:25:11,810 --> 01:25:09,300 John Lear but I do believe Stanton 1794 01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:11,820 Friedman and what he told me and Stanton 1795 01:25:16,130 --> 01:25:13,860 Freeman's Theory with why Bob 1796 01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:16,140 continually canceled and refused to meet 1797 01:25:21,110 --> 01:25:19,199 with him was because Stanton Freeman was 1798 01:25:23,390 --> 01:25:21,120 a real educated 1799 01:25:25,010 --> 01:25:23,400 nuclear physicist 1800 01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,020 and 1801 01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,120 one can imagine that if you're a fake 1802 01:25:30,530 --> 01:25:28,800 scientist that's claiming to be a 1803 01:25:32,689 --> 01:25:30,540 physicist you don't want to meet and 1804 01:25:33,890 --> 01:25:32,699 have to talk to a real physicist because 1805 01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,900 how are you going to Bluff your way 1806 01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,280 through a conversation with somebody 1807 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,679 that really knows physics Bob does not 1808 01:25:43,610 --> 01:25:41,040 know physics as evidenced by uh Alien 1809 01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,620 scientists and so many other and Stanton 1810 01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:45,840 Friedman everybody who really does know 1811 01:25:50,990 --> 01:25:48,239 physics says Bob was full of crap 1812 01:25:52,669 --> 01:25:51,000 so John Lear can say he wasn't 1813 01:25:54,770 --> 01:25:52,679 interested of course he wanted to meet 1814 01:25:57,169 --> 01:25:54,780 Bob and talk to Bob and he tried several 1815 01:26:00,290 --> 01:25:57,179 times he's on the record saying that in 1816 01:26:01,669 --> 01:26:00,300 interviews and that Bob canceled so I 1817 01:26:04,810 --> 01:26:01,679 think what we're getting is damage 1818 01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:04,820 control from the Lazar Camp here right 1819 01:26:10,669 --> 01:26:07,920 and this is what's so interesting to me 1820 01:26:13,550 --> 01:26:10,679 about this stupid back and forth about 1821 01:26:15,950 --> 01:26:13,560 Stan Friedman is nothing has changed 1822 01:26:18,770 --> 01:26:15,960 except the players now it's Korbel 1823 01:26:21,470 --> 01:26:18,780 making excuses for Bob lazar's failure 1824 01:26:24,169 --> 01:26:21,480 to prove himself to real scientists now 1825 01:26:26,209 --> 01:26:24,179 it's George Knapp back in the day it was 1826 01:26:29,209 --> 01:26:26,219 Gene huff and John Lear who were 1827 01:26:31,970 --> 01:26:29,219 providing excuses for Bob's lack of 1828 01:26:32,810 --> 01:26:31,980 meeting with real scientists hey you 1829 01:26:34,970 --> 01:26:32,820 want to go ahead and take another call 1830 01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:34,980 sure let's go ahead go ahead you're on 1831 01:26:39,709 --> 01:26:37,440 UFO line yes good evening John good 1832 01:26:42,649 --> 01:26:39,719 evening Bob is Gene up there yes well 1833 01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,659 good evening James greetings from the 1834 01:26:49,310 --> 01:26:45,440 Billy Goodman happening 1835 01:26:51,770 --> 01:26:49,320 I'm not there but uh Philly's going to 1836 01:26:54,830 --> 01:26:51,780 be listening to this tape shortly 1837 01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:54,840 how you doing Billy right actually the 1838 01:26:58,010 --> 01:26:56,460 reason we decided to do this show is we 1839 01:27:00,110 --> 01:26:58,020 missed the old Billy Goodman show here 1840 01:27:02,090 --> 01:27:00,120 in town yeah there was a billy Goodman 1841 01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,100 UFO show 1842 01:27:06,890 --> 01:27:05,280 um back in the late 80s and uh 1843 01:27:09,470 --> 01:27:06,900 interesting they're going to say that 1844 01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:09,480 they modeled their show after his it was 1845 01:27:15,890 --> 01:27:12,560 kind of like an art Bell college show 1846 01:27:18,110 --> 01:27:15,900 on strange an esoteric topics but it 1847 01:27:20,510 --> 01:27:18,120 only broadcast I believe in Las Vegas 1848 01:27:23,149 --> 01:27:20,520 and surrounding areas it was a smaller 1849 01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,159 show but it was very very popular and 1850 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:26,100 Bob was R and John Lear and others have 1851 01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:29,040 had appeared on that but before they 1852 01:27:34,970 --> 01:27:32,400 were really big time TV famous and tried 1853 01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:34,980 to get some late night talk going while 1854 01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:36,900 you're doing an exceptional job and I'm 1855 01:27:43,370 --> 01:27:40,080 glad that uh you know about the last 1856 01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:43,380 time that you spoke on the air was on 1857 01:27:47,570 --> 01:27:44,940 The Happening as far as I know remember 1858 01:27:49,729 --> 01:27:47,580 probably so probably so I don't know 1859 01:27:51,530 --> 01:27:49,739 that I can control that I think they do 1860 01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:51,540 that's right all right yeah we had an 1861 01:27:56,209 --> 01:27:52,880 afternoon 1862 01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,219 that may be an answer as to why if your 1863 01:27:59,930 --> 01:27:58,320 Super Chat is canceled try to make a 1864 01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:59,940 shorter message don't make such a long 1865 01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:01,199 message 1866 01:28:05,450 --> 01:28:03,600 maybe is a good idea and I'm not sure 1867 01:28:07,490 --> 01:28:05,460 that I could set the character limit I 1868 01:28:08,689 --> 01:28:07,500 think YouTube sits there 1869 01:28:09,610 --> 01:28:08,699 I just wanted to give and give you my 1870 01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,620 guard 1871 01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:12,719 is Billy doing a UF is a scientific 1872 01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:15,000 spiritual athlete still still going oh 1873 01:28:19,010 --> 01:28:17,100 uh he's done the show back out of 1874 01:28:21,709 --> 01:28:19,020 Providence Rhode Island oh he's still up 1875 01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:21,719 there uh three to five technobabble just 1876 01:28:28,910 --> 01:28:25,320 like Star Trek you know work course 1877 01:28:31,070 --> 01:28:28,920 but wsuv out of Connecticut actually is 1878 01:28:33,110 --> 01:28:31,080 where the uh station is at right now 1879 01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:33,120 well Billy's a great host and he was 1880 01:28:36,770 --> 01:28:34,560 always a good time and I people 1881 01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,780 criticized him because he let anything 1882 01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:39,120 go but you know that that provided for a 1883 01:28:42,410 --> 01:28:40,800 fun show as he didn't pass judgment on 1884 01:28:45,649 --> 01:28:42,420 everyone like we're just getting ready 1885 01:28:48,290 --> 01:28:45,659 to do right now well John the last time 1886 01:28:52,250 --> 01:28:48,300 I saw you was over there at uh 1887 01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:54,110 yeah not willingly of course no of 1888 01:28:58,250 --> 01:28:56,880 course not well at least it was nice to 1889 01:29:01,729 --> 01:28:58,260 see you both together 1890 01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:01,739 so uh Rob visited some of John lear's 1891 01:29:05,870 --> 01:29:03,960 UFO events and always played the 1892 01:29:07,250 --> 01:29:05,880 reluctant hero like he didn't want to be 1893 01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:07,260 there just like he did at the beginning 1894 01:29:11,570 --> 01:29:08,880 of this broadcast 1895 01:29:14,090 --> 01:29:11,580 I think it's stick you know to pretend 1896 01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:14,100 that he has no interest in UFOs Merry 1897 01:29:17,450 --> 01:29:16,080 Christmas and seasons greetings to you 1898 01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:17,460 and everyone else all right thanks for 1899 01:29:22,430 --> 01:29:19,440 the call say hi to Billy for us okay I 1900 01:29:24,530 --> 01:29:22,440 will okay he'll hear this okay right 1901 01:29:26,750 --> 01:29:24,540 and I did want to tell you uh or cover 1902 01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:26,760 one thing uh if you guys told you both 1903 01:29:31,370 --> 01:29:29,760 as uh south of town here and meeting a 1904 01:29:34,030 --> 01:29:31,380 guy on something yeah and then this guy 1905 01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,040 that's why they're talking smack on him 1906 01:29:38,270 --> 01:29:36,719 he's about 70 years old and we get to 1907 01:29:40,729 --> 01:29:38,280 talk and we're talking about you know 1908 01:29:43,129 --> 01:29:40,739 something that's totally I'm pretty sure 1909 01:29:46,010 --> 01:29:43,139 he could yeah and listen let's let's 1910 01:29:48,729 --> 01:29:46,020 address that for those those that don't 1911 01:29:51,770 --> 01:29:48,739 know all that rocket engine stuff 1912 01:29:54,410 --> 01:29:51,780 bottles are growing up had a neighbor 1913 01:29:57,530 --> 01:29:54,420 who built those engines and sold them 1914 01:29:59,629 --> 01:29:57,540 and he got friendly with him and worked 1915 01:30:01,370 --> 01:29:59,639 with her for him for a time and learned 1916 01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,380 how he was doing it 1917 01:30:05,570 --> 01:30:03,360 putting a rocket engine in something 1918 01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:05,580 does not make you a scientist a science 1919 01:30:12,649 --> 01:30:07,920 degree does and Bob Lazar is a convicted 1920 01:30:14,870 --> 01:30:12,659 pimp fake scientist who happens to uh be 1921 01:30:16,850 --> 01:30:14,880 like a tech techie geek and like science 1922 01:30:17,570 --> 01:30:16,860 projects 1923 01:30:19,490 --> 01:30:17,580 um 1924 01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:19,500 and I'm sure Stanton Friedman if he 1925 01:30:24,290 --> 01:30:21,000 wanted to could put a rocket on his 1926 01:30:27,649 --> 01:30:24,300 bicycle yeah and in the conversation he 1927 01:30:29,450 --> 01:30:27,659 said that he was a uh a roughneck on a 1928 01:30:32,090 --> 01:30:29,460 uh for working for El Paso natural gas 1929 01:30:34,129 --> 01:30:32,100 and he started talking about seeing this 1930 01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:34,139 thing land and and I said what year was 1931 01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:38,400 that and he said 1948. yeah it is and I 1932 01:30:43,010 --> 01:30:40,260 realized I'm talking to one of the only 1933 01:30:45,770 --> 01:30:43,020 guys that's ever come forward uh that 1934 01:30:47,270 --> 01:30:45,780 was at the crash at Aztec now you know 1935 01:30:50,090 --> 01:30:47,280 the bills Diamond wrote the book crash 1936 01:30:53,169 --> 01:30:50,100 at Aztec and it's been uh yeah the Aztec 1937 01:30:56,390 --> 01:30:53,179 crash is one of those things where like 1938 01:30:59,149 --> 01:30:56,400 essentially a bunch of con artists told 1939 01:31:01,250 --> 01:30:59,159 that told and sold that story so I've 1940 01:31:03,470 --> 01:31:01,260 never believed that the crashes Aztec 1941 01:31:05,629 --> 01:31:03,480 was a real story because there were 1942 01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:05,639 literal con artists at the heart of it 1943 01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:08,880 like proven con artists told that story 1944 01:31:13,850 --> 01:31:12,000 and sold that story surely discredited 1945 01:31:16,729 --> 01:31:13,860 by Gilmore and all those guys but there 1946 01:31:18,290 --> 01:31:16,739 is a lot of good information and uh I 1947 01:31:20,050 --> 01:31:18,300 always believed it to be real but I 1948 01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:20,060 never met anybody who actually thought 1949 01:31:24,890 --> 01:31:23,520 this guy was one of five workers at El 1950 01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:24,900 Paso natural gas that were saying 1951 01:31:32,030 --> 01:31:28,080 actually well I'll have to message you 1952 01:31:34,090 --> 01:31:32,040 the guy's name but there was a a fairly 1953 01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:34,100 famous gentleman in the experiment 1954 01:31:38,649 --> 01:31:37,679 rocket and jet engine experimenter 1955 01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:38,659 Community 1956 01:31:46,129 --> 01:31:43,380 who designed and sold those rocket and 1957 01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:46,139 jet engines and also parts for them in 1958 01:31:51,050 --> 01:31:48,719 the back of science magazines he was one 1959 01:31:54,050 --> 01:31:51,060 of Bob lazar's Neighbors when Bob Lazar 1960 01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:54,060 was in high school and uh Jeremy rise 1961 01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:56,880 alien scientist has detailed this in 1962 01:32:02,030 --> 01:31:59,280 much more detail giving his name showing 1963 01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:02,040 some of his designs and and the things 1964 01:32:07,370 --> 01:32:03,840 that that gentleman was selling so 1965 01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:07,380 essentially Lou Bob Lazar basically just 1966 01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:10,560 bought parts or whole jet engine off of 1967 01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:12,719 his neighbor and slapped it on the back 1968 01:32:17,090 --> 01:32:13,980 of a bicycle 1969 01:32:19,610 --> 01:32:17,100 which I'm sorry it doesn't take a 1970 01:32:21,229 --> 01:32:19,620 physics degree to do that you could do 1971 01:32:23,570 --> 01:32:21,239 that Lou I could do that with 1972 01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:23,580 instructions or you know 1973 01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:25,920 um a tutorial it's basically just 1974 01:32:31,490 --> 01:32:28,020 bracketing an engine on the back of a 1975 01:32:34,610 --> 01:32:31,500 bicycle or bracketing a big jet engine 1976 01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:34,620 in the back of a vehicle it doesn't make 1977 01:32:39,470 --> 01:32:36,900 him a scientist it makes him somebody 1978 01:32:41,570 --> 01:32:39,480 that's interested in cool fun science 1979 01:32:43,550 --> 01:32:41,580 projects though and I can identify with 1980 01:32:45,470 --> 01:32:43,560 that because I'm one of those guys when 1981 01:32:47,390 --> 01:32:45,480 this thing crashed it was 100 feet in 1982 01:32:48,850 --> 01:32:47,400 diameter now it's going to talk about 1983 01:32:56,209 --> 01:32:48,860 the Aztec 1984 01:32:59,030 --> 01:32:56,219 again was a story told and sold by 1985 01:33:00,770 --> 01:32:59,040 literal verifiable con artists the 1986 01:33:02,810 --> 01:33:00,780 windows that they could peek in but he's 1987 01:33:04,790 --> 01:33:02,820 got extra details to add on the main 1988 01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:04,800 deck and apparently there was some on a 1989 01:33:08,930 --> 01:33:06,840 lower deck and they were there for five 1990 01:33:11,810 --> 01:33:08,940 hours before the military got there and 1991 01:33:13,669 --> 01:33:11,820 rounded them up and uh and swarmed this 1992 01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:13,679 evening yeah he did he's still selling 1993 01:33:19,610 --> 01:33:16,800 them he is still selling that neighbors 1994 01:33:21,890 --> 01:33:19,620 designs for how to build jet engines on 1995 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:21,900 his current website and to the best of 1996 01:33:25,310 --> 01:33:23,520 my knowledge of recollection he does not 1997 01:33:27,890 --> 01:33:25,320 have permission of that gentleman who's 1998 01:33:29,930 --> 01:33:27,900 now deceased or that gentleman's family 1999 01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:29,940 to sell his designs those are his 2000 01:33:34,370 --> 01:33:31,020 designs 2001 01:33:35,830 --> 01:33:34,380 why would uh why would a real physicist 2002 01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:35,840 be selling 2003 01:33:39,649 --> 01:33:37,920 violating somebody's intellectual 2004 01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:39,659 property rights and selling their 2005 01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:42,719 materials on his website or as Bob just 2006 01:33:47,450 --> 01:33:45,360 a another con man in all these years 2007 01:33:49,790 --> 01:33:47,460 he's 70 years old now but it was pretty 2008 01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:49,800 interesting I went oh I talked to him 2009 01:33:54,770 --> 01:33:52,800 first uh and I tried to see if maybe 2010 01:33:56,090 --> 01:33:54,780 he'd read Bill's Diamond book but no he 2011 01:33:57,410 --> 01:33:56,100 hadn't so I went only got the book and 2012 01:33:59,629 --> 01:33:57,420 brought it back yeah that was a sad 2013 01:34:01,550 --> 01:33:59,639 video it wasn't Lazar it was just 2014 01:34:03,470 --> 01:34:01,560 corpelling treatment of course there's 2015 01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:03,480 the maps and drawings in Bill's 2016 01:34:07,669 --> 01:34:05,520 Diamond's book and he told me what was 2017 01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:07,679 true and what was false there was a 2018 01:34:14,810 --> 01:34:12,239 picture of a pole being poked through uh 2019 01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:14,820 this hole in the window to catch the 2020 01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:17,280 latch and open the door and he said the 2021 01:34:20,570 --> 01:34:19,080 poll in the book is much too big it was 2022 01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:20,580 a thin rod that came off one of the 2023 01:34:26,030 --> 01:34:22,500 welding trucks with uh El Paso natural 2024 01:34:27,890 --> 01:34:26,040 gas he also also yeah I think it's 2025 01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:27,900 interesting that the Aztec story has 2026 01:34:33,410 --> 01:34:30,900 pretty much been blown to crap as uh a 2027 01:34:35,030 --> 01:34:33,420 story put out by con artists but John 2028 01:34:36,590 --> 01:34:35,040 Lear was doing the same thing that many 2029 01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:36,600 people do uh 2030 01:34:40,370 --> 01:34:38,639 still to this day which is to say well 2031 01:34:41,709 --> 01:34:40,380 some of the information is really good 2032 01:34:45,410 --> 01:34:41,719 information 2033 01:34:48,169 --> 01:34:45,420 if the story originated from literal 2034 01:34:50,689 --> 01:34:48,179 proven con artists right who were 2035 01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:50,699 scamming people for money before they 2036 01:34:56,209 --> 01:34:53,040 came out with this alien crash retrieval 2037 01:34:58,669 --> 01:34:56,219 at Aztec story and sold the book 2038 01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:58,679 I just don't think it's credible but 2039 01:35:03,350 --> 01:35:00,960 that's the excuse making in the mental 2040 01:35:04,970 --> 01:35:03,360 gymnastics well yeah those guys were con 2041 01:35:08,570 --> 01:35:04,980 artists but some of that information was 2042 01:35:11,209 --> 01:35:08,580 true and real why you know your desire 2043 01:35:13,250 --> 01:35:11,219 for a story to be true does not make it 2044 01:35:15,229 --> 01:35:13,260 so evidence does 2045 01:35:17,629 --> 01:35:15,239 and if we go by preponderance of the 2046 01:35:21,290 --> 01:35:17,639 evidence okay unverified stories from 2047 01:35:24,169 --> 01:35:21,300 con artists the story is fake but never 2048 01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,179 let the story being fake or the source 2049 01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:26,400 of the story being oh I don't know a 2050 01:35:31,970 --> 01:35:29,520 criminal a child molester or even a 2051 01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:31,980 murderer like Carrie Cassidy uses don't 2052 01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:33,780 let that get in the way of a good story 2053 01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,480 you can sell in those times where it 2054 01:35:39,530 --> 01:35:38,159 said helicopters came there and he said 2055 01:35:42,290 --> 01:35:39,540 when I was there there was no my only 2056 01:35:43,490 --> 01:35:42,300 countries but he said it was uh it was a 2057 01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:43,500 really interesting experience that he 2058 01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:45,120 never told anybody about it and it was 2059 01:35:48,649 --> 01:35:47,400 kind of neat to uh to meet the guy how 2060 01:35:50,750 --> 01:35:48,659 was that covered up 2061 01:35:52,750 --> 01:35:50,760 I mean selling 100 feet in diameter I 2062 01:35:55,070 --> 01:35:52,760 imagine people saw that inbound 2063 01:35:57,890 --> 01:35:55,080 but they must have had a cover story if 2064 01:36:00,770 --> 01:35:57,900 it was such a remote area I mean nobody 2065 01:36:02,689 --> 01:36:00,780 there wasn't that many it was just you 2066 01:36:04,490 --> 01:36:02,699 know an Aztec New Mexico yeah I'm not 2067 01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:04,500 familiar with where that is well it's 2068 01:36:09,530 --> 01:36:06,960 east of Farmington and it's uh here's a 2069 01:36:13,490 --> 01:36:09,540 very desolate area I remember it's 2070 01:36:21,010 --> 01:36:17,990 there and they briefed him on secrecy he 2071 01:36:23,330 --> 01:36:21,020 was later given a job in Long Beach yeah 2072 01:36:24,890 --> 01:36:23,340 that's one part of the story that I 2073 01:36:27,169 --> 01:36:24,900 never understood why would you put a 2074 01:36:29,450 --> 01:36:27,179 concrete pad concrete pads that big or 2075 01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,460 expensive in the middle of the desert 2076 01:36:34,490 --> 01:36:31,440 but we don't know that pad could have 2077 01:36:36,709 --> 01:36:34,500 been put there in you know 1902 for 2078 01:36:39,050 --> 01:36:36,719 something a building or something and 2079 01:36:40,189 --> 01:36:39,060 that was since you know destroyed or 2080 01:36:42,890 --> 01:36:40,199 blown apart 2081 01:36:45,709 --> 01:36:42,900 if the best evidence you have of an 2082 01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,719 alien crashed Flying Saucer is just that 2083 01:36:48,890 --> 01:36:47,520 there's a concrete pad found in the 2084 01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,900 desert 2085 01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:51,600 I I I I I think that's still pretty 2086 01:36:56,450 --> 01:36:54,239 pretty weak and remember I you know I'm 2087 01:36:59,090 --> 01:36:56,460 forgetting the details the names we 2088 01:37:03,110 --> 01:36:59,100 could do a whole show actually be Baker 2089 01:37:04,910 --> 01:37:03,120 on uh on the Aztec UFO crash because it 2090 01:37:06,350 --> 01:37:04,920 was put out by con artists that were 2091 01:37:08,750 --> 01:37:06,360 scamming people 2092 01:37:11,450 --> 01:37:08,760 uh for some kind of a machine that could 2093 01:37:13,370 --> 01:37:11,460 find oil they were scamming people for 2094 01:37:15,590 --> 01:37:13,380 that before they came out with the alien 2095 01:37:17,810 --> 01:37:15,600 stories so I never found that story 2096 01:37:20,209 --> 01:37:17,820 credible you've been there for 20 years 2097 01:37:22,610 --> 01:37:20,219 and then moved back to Farmington and uh 2098 01:37:24,649 --> 01:37:22,620 Goldstein interviewed him and he just 2099 01:37:26,990 --> 01:37:24,659 refused to talk about you know just even 2100 01:37:28,629 --> 01:37:27,000 refused to discuss things yes I did 2101 01:37:30,770 --> 01:37:28,639 thank you very much 2102 01:37:33,050 --> 01:37:30,780 we have a 2103 01:37:34,850 --> 01:37:33,060 we have plans to add a lot of 2104 01:37:43,629 --> 01:37:34,860 merchandise and that's going to be on my 2105 01:37:49,610 --> 01:37:46,790 no it doesn't 2106 01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:49,620 what are your your current views on that 2107 01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,000 do you still think that there is an 2108 01:37:54,290 --> 01:37:53,040 underground base and also yeah you know 2109 01:37:56,090 --> 01:37:54,300 what story I'm referring to absolutely 2110 01:38:00,050 --> 01:37:56,100 the guy that got out of there and the 2111 01:38:02,209 --> 01:38:00,060 Vats of amber colored liquids down I 2112 01:38:03,530 --> 01:38:02,219 have uh why you know that there have 2113 01:38:05,930 --> 01:38:03,540 been plenty of people gone up there 2114 01:38:09,229 --> 01:38:05,940 snooping around yeah and here they're 2115 01:38:11,689 --> 01:38:09,239 talking about Dulce and remember that 2116 01:38:15,070 --> 01:38:11,699 that story was floated to Paul benowitz 2117 01:38:17,570 --> 01:38:15,080 from Richard Doty a known paid 2118 01:38:19,370 --> 01:38:17,580 disinformation agent 2119 01:38:22,370 --> 01:38:19,380 and uh 2120 01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,380 I I I don't know John Lear says it's 2121 01:38:27,050 --> 01:38:24,239 absolutely true let's see what else he 2122 01:38:28,610 --> 01:38:27,060 says secret underground days for the 2123 01:38:30,850 --> 01:38:28,620 Indians no of course not but I mean 2124 01:38:33,890 --> 01:38:30,860 they've you know covered I agree Anthony 2125 01:38:35,390 --> 01:38:33,900 these guys were UFO enthusiasts like 2126 01:38:37,010 --> 01:38:35,400 yourself and they were you know it would 2127 01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:37,020 have been more than happy to more than 2128 01:38:39,470 --> 01:38:38,400 happy to find anything I mean they 2129 01:38:49,260 --> 01:38:39,480 didn't find anything yeah I don't know 2130 01:39:01,689 --> 01:38:55,310 [Music] 2131 01:39:05,090 --> 01:39:03,950 yeah and it's been four or five years 2132 01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:05,100 since they talked about this so I don't 2133 01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,480 have a lot of this stuff over off the 2134 01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:08,400 top of my hand but uh so isn't it 2135 01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:11,040 interesting so many things have changed 2136 01:39:16,610 --> 01:39:13,320 but so many things have stayed the same 2137 01:39:19,850 --> 01:39:16,620 they've talked about alien autopsy Aztec 2138 01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,860 crash retrieval story that's fake now 2139 01:39:23,750 --> 01:39:21,600 they're talking about Dulce which I 2140 01:39:26,330 --> 01:39:23,760 think that's fake 2141 01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:26,340 um it talks about John lear's theories 2142 01:39:29,810 --> 01:39:27,840 that there's hundreds of thousands of 2143 01:39:31,370 --> 01:39:29,820 people living on Saturn and Venus and 2144 01:39:33,950 --> 01:39:31,380 they're all habitable planets and the 2145 01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:33,960 government is lying to us that's fake 2146 01:39:39,229 --> 01:39:36,480 we've had 40 minutes of fake for the 2147 01:39:42,050 --> 01:39:39,239 most part here it was a it was a very 2148 01:39:44,209 --> 01:39:42,060 good videotape and what was going on 2149 01:39:46,129 --> 01:39:44,219 yeah he knows a lot about it for 2150 01:39:47,930 --> 01:39:46,139 somebody to tell you how does he know 2151 01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:47,940 the Air Force guy that I know how does 2152 01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,679 he know about the Aztec crash how does 2153 01:39:55,310 --> 01:39:51,600 he know about the Dulce base how does he 2154 01:39:57,010 --> 01:39:55,320 know about uh the bats at the Tulsi base 2155 01:40:00,290 --> 01:39:57,020 and how does he know about the 2156 01:40:02,450 --> 01:40:00,300 underground tunnel systems right it's as 2157 01:40:04,250 --> 01:40:02,460 if he is on the internet reading about 2158 01:40:06,290 --> 01:40:04,260 all of this stuff 2159 01:40:09,050 --> 01:40:06,300 when he claims he has no interest in any 2160 01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:09,060 of it was there he refers to it not as 2161 01:40:12,890 --> 01:40:10,800 jealousy but I think he called it 2162 01:40:17,030 --> 01:40:12,900 section B 2163 01:40:19,010 --> 01:40:17,040 what about uh the guy from Los Alamos 2164 01:40:20,870 --> 01:40:19,020 whose name I can't remember either my 2165 01:40:24,050 --> 01:40:20,880 memory is so fantastic 2166 01:40:25,790 --> 01:40:24,060 the guy we both know oh yeah yeah I 2167 01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:25,800 think we better not mention his game 2168 01:40:30,110 --> 01:40:28,080 yeah Tim he did but he was also a 2169 01:40:32,990 --> 01:40:30,120 convicted child molester who spent time 2170 01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,000 in jail for molesting multiple underage 2171 01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:35,040 victims so I don't find anything that 2172 01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,500 Wendell Stevens says credible 2173 01:40:49,729 --> 01:40:38,880 yeah 2174 01:40:52,270 --> 01:40:49,739 insulting Jesus and everything and then 2175 01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,610 okay John you you brought Bill Moore 2176 01:41:00,770 --> 01:40:58,320 before and uh Bill Moore always seems to 2177 01:41:02,750 --> 01:41:00,780 take it personally upon himself uh even 2178 01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:02,760 if it's transparent to try and discredit 2179 01:41:06,649 --> 01:41:04,620 anything that he is not sponsored or 2180 01:41:08,450 --> 01:41:06,659 anything he has not approved yet I 2181 01:41:10,669 --> 01:41:08,460 remember George Knapp and I met with him 2182 01:41:13,070 --> 01:41:10,679 a few years ago when he came up here and 2183 01:41:15,470 --> 01:41:13,080 and uh Moore said that he didn't believe 2184 01:41:17,770 --> 01:41:15,480 Bob was our story but 2185 01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:17,780 he had some information that actually 2186 01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:21,000 there were there was an alien settlement 2187 01:41:25,129 --> 01:41:22,800 out in central Nevada before the white 2188 01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,139 man moved West and I think there's jokes 2189 01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:26,639 about how surprised the Pioneers must 2190 01:41:30,410 --> 01:41:27,840 have been when they came right over 2191 01:41:31,790 --> 01:41:30,420 there like a Twilight Zone episode and 2192 01:41:33,649 --> 01:41:31,800 there was a flying disc space there but 2193 01:41:36,530 --> 01:41:33,659 what do you think Fillmore is up to Why 2194 01:41:39,050 --> 01:41:36,540 do you think he feels compelled to try 2195 01:41:41,390 --> 01:41:39,060 and squelch anything that that surfaces 2196 01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:41,400 that he is not sponsored I think it goes 2197 01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:42,480 back to the cover-up where everybody 2198 01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:43,920 thinks the Air Force is in charge 2199 01:41:47,810 --> 01:41:45,840 they're not it was the Navy he's always 2200 01:41:49,490 --> 01:41:47,820 been in charge of the uh cover-up and 2201 01:41:53,209 --> 01:41:49,500 they use the Air Force's Whipping Boy 2202 01:41:56,270 --> 01:41:53,219 now the air force uh what Bill Moore got 2203 01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,280 hooked up with was afosi uh the airport 2204 01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,320 Air Force House's special investigations 2205 01:42:01,609 --> 01:42:00,239 and what they were trying to found they 2206 01:42:05,149 --> 01:42:01,619 themselves wanted to know what was going 2207 01:42:06,590 --> 01:42:05,159 on uh so they enlisted Bill to pass 2208 01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:06,600 around you know some good information 2209 01:42:11,570 --> 01:42:08,719 some of this information to Fair it out 2210 01:42:13,790 --> 01:42:11,580 uh the truth and I think he got mixed up 2211 01:42:16,270 --> 01:42:13,800 with AFA afosi and they don't know 2212 01:42:18,410 --> 01:42:16,280 what's going on what was the the 2213 01:42:20,510 --> 01:42:18,420 disinformation that Fillmore spurred 2214 01:42:21,890 --> 01:42:20,520 around yeah interestingly so this is 2215 01:42:24,290 --> 01:42:21,900 when Bill Moore 2216 01:42:27,470 --> 01:42:24,300 Fillmore for those that don't know a 2217 01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:27,480 writer of behold the Pale Horse wants a 2218 01:42:33,470 --> 01:42:30,960 uh a supporter of all kinds of alien and 2219 01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:33,480 UFO theories later and his career 2220 01:42:38,090 --> 01:42:35,340 started saying that it was all fake and 2221 01:42:40,250 --> 01:42:38,100 it was all government disinformation and 2222 01:42:43,609 --> 01:42:40,260 he noticed that John Lear said oh he got 2223 01:42:46,189 --> 01:42:43,619 mixed up with the a Air Force office of 2224 01:42:49,970 --> 01:42:46,199 special investigations he means he got 2225 01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:49,980 mixed up with Richard Doty and uh Bill 2226 01:42:54,410 --> 01:42:52,080 Moore came to believe that all the alien 2227 01:42:55,729 --> 01:42:54,420 and UFO stuff was just cover for black 2228 01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:55,739 projects 2229 01:43:03,350 --> 01:42:57,840 uh 2230 01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:03,360 people still believe to this day is 2231 01:43:09,169 --> 01:43:07,199 entirely possible but a lot of these UFO 2232 01:43:11,390 --> 01:43:09,179 hucksters were pissed off at him at the 2233 01:43:14,510 --> 01:43:11,400 time because he was going around showing 2234 01:43:17,810 --> 01:43:14,520 everybody how many of these UFO stories 2235 01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:17,820 and fairy tales were fake and the people 2236 01:43:22,729 --> 01:43:19,800 like Lear who were making a living on 2237 01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:22,739 UFO conventions didn't like him doing 2238 01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:26,000 that uh he claims to have 2239 01:43:33,709 --> 01:43:30,560 fabricated the benefits deal and uh 2240 01:43:35,570 --> 01:43:33,719 fabricated the Benoist feel yeah 2241 01:43:39,229 --> 01:43:35,580 she was the one that supposedly fed then 2242 01:43:42,290 --> 01:43:39,239 which the information on dulcers okay 2243 01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:42,300 so um as we marched down the UFO gossip 2244 01:43:46,010 --> 01:43:43,679 list down what do you think of Linda 2245 01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:46,020 Howe I thought uh I think a strange 2246 01:43:50,209 --> 01:43:47,760 Harvest still stands when did it came 2247 01:43:51,950 --> 01:43:50,219 out in 1979 or 1980 that was very good 2248 01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:51,960 and it was a great film and it was down 2249 01:43:56,090 --> 01:43:54,000 to earth and and lately she's been 2250 01:43:58,669 --> 01:43:56,100 called every name in the book here we 2251 01:44:02,629 --> 01:43:58,679 have Bob Lazar who claimed he never had 2252 01:44:06,109 --> 01:44:02,639 an interest in UFOs or aliens before he 2253 01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:06,119 worked on Crash flying saucers 2254 01:44:10,430 --> 01:44:08,340 Bob Lazar just said that was a great 2255 01:44:13,790 --> 01:44:10,440 film and I believe that a strange 2256 01:44:16,310 --> 01:44:13,800 Harvest was from 1978. so what's a guy 2257 01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:16,320 who has no interest in UFOs or aliens 2258 01:44:22,609 --> 01:44:19,199 before he worked at Area 51 doing 2259 01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:22,619 watching a alien UFO themed film from 2260 01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:26,880 Linda Moulton Hale in 1978. 2261 01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:31,199 this my friends is why these things are 2262 01:44:39,370 --> 01:44:34,400 disappearing from the internet little 2263 01:44:45,050 --> 01:44:42,410 The Narrative that we have all been 2264 01:44:47,689 --> 01:44:45,060 spoon fed about bubbles are having zero 2265 01:44:49,729 --> 01:44:47,699 interest in UFOs can't be true we have 2266 01:44:51,410 --> 01:44:49,739 seen it evidenced in this broadcast he 2267 01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:51,420 knows about Dulce base he knows about 2268 01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:55,260 the secret tunnel system the area 51. 2269 01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,159 um 2270 01:45:01,970 --> 01:44:59,280 he knows about a strange Harvest 2271 01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:01,980 and says it was a great film what's he 2272 01:45:07,370 --> 01:45:05,460 doing watching that film before he 2273 01:45:10,070 --> 01:45:07,380 worked at Area 51 when we were always 2274 01:45:12,050 --> 01:45:10,080 told he had zero interest in aliens and 2275 01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:12,060 UFOs no 2276 01:45:16,669 --> 01:45:14,400 Bob Lazar was a UFO guy his whole life 2277 01:45:19,370 --> 01:45:16,679 he was interested in ufos's entire life 2278 01:45:21,370 --> 01:45:19,380 because she has gotten UFO researchers 2279 01:45:24,109 --> 01:45:21,380 syndrome and spread out and now she 2280 01:45:25,790 --> 01:45:24,119 speaks her mind on crop circles and then 2281 01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:25,800 numerous other areas it's pretty much a 2282 01:45:30,470 --> 01:45:28,320 correspondent do you think that that 2283 01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:30,480 Linda has degenerated or deteriorated 2284 01:45:35,390 --> 01:45:32,400 his incredible I haven't heard what 2285 01:45:37,729 --> 01:45:35,400 Linda said in the past year a big deal 2286 01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:37,739 about an asteroid running into the Earth 2287 01:45:40,669 --> 01:45:39,360 yeah I remember that was about four 2288 01:45:43,070 --> 01:45:40,679 because that's when it started gone or 2289 01:45:45,410 --> 01:45:43,080 chicken yeah on the internet I read uh 2290 01:45:48,109 --> 01:45:45,420 that he was on the shots fired radio 2291 01:45:50,570 --> 01:45:48,119 show here in town and uh played an audio 2292 01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:50,580 tape of a crowd of people running from 2293 01:45:54,530 --> 01:45:52,800 Bigfoot 2294 01:45:56,930 --> 01:45:54,540 you know it happened oh that's right 2295 01:45:58,669 --> 01:45:56,940 she's on uh it's shown that other uh Art 2296 01:46:00,350 --> 01:45:58,679 Bell show I don't know I've never heard 2297 01:46:02,629 --> 01:46:00,360 it that's pretty bad when you've got 2298 01:46:04,729 --> 01:46:02,639 John Lear talking about how ridiculous 2299 01:46:07,010 --> 01:46:04,739 your stories are right 2300 01:46:09,470 --> 01:46:07,020 I just see people talking about it on 2301 01:46:11,570 --> 01:46:09,480 the internet and and uh yeah I haven't 2302 01:46:15,050 --> 01:46:11,580 heard but but strange Harvest both the 2303 01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:15,060 book in the uh I agree Amy Collins 2304 01:46:19,370 --> 01:46:16,800 that's where he saw the bone scanner 2305 01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:19,380 from and this guy comes on Bill Cooper 2306 01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:22,080 Bernie says I can't vouch for all of us 2307 01:46:31,570 --> 01:46:25,440 here says but I can vouch for 50 of what 2308 01:46:38,510 --> 01:46:36,649 Pearl Harbor and he said I was uh 2309 01:46:40,550 --> 01:46:38,520 you know if the briefing team get out 2310 01:46:42,109 --> 01:46:40,560 the projector now later he became part 2311 01:46:44,209 --> 01:46:42,119 of the briefing team but all he was was 2312 01:46:46,850 --> 01:46:44,219 the guy that brought the projector up 2313 01:46:48,350 --> 01:46:46,860 and he said he had keys to the face and 2314 01:46:50,990 --> 01:46:48,360 he recruited knife and read these 2315 01:46:52,250 --> 01:46:51,000 documents and that's you know where he 2316 01:46:54,350 --> 01:46:52,260 originally came yeah that's another 2317 01:46:56,750 --> 01:46:54,360 thing for a guy not interested in UFOs 2318 01:46:58,189 --> 01:46:56,760 he had a license plate that says that 2319 01:47:02,810 --> 01:46:58,199 said magic 2320 01:47:05,510 --> 01:47:02,820 with a j m a j i c which stands for 2321 01:47:07,850 --> 01:47:05,520 Majestic 12. 2322 01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:07,860 um there's all kinds of indicators that 2323 01:47:12,490 --> 01:47:09,360 we were lied to and the original 2324 01:47:15,770 --> 01:47:12,500 narrative is crumbling 2325 01:47:17,689 --> 01:47:15,780 so we got for a while and unfortunately 2326 01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,699 I think they contributed these downfall 2327 01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:19,920 because I gave him copies of all I 2328 01:47:25,370 --> 01:47:23,280 believe that XXX that's true that was 2329 01:47:28,189 --> 01:47:25,380 true maybe a month or two later not only 2330 01:47:30,649 --> 01:47:28,199 could he Dodge for uh 50 of what he said 2331 01:47:31,689 --> 01:47:30,659 he could now buy for a hundred and fifty 2332 01:47:34,430 --> 01:47:31,699 percent 2333 01:47:35,330 --> 01:47:34,440 and by the way this is a little known 2334 01:47:37,970 --> 01:47:35,340 fact 2335 01:47:40,609 --> 01:47:37,980 and it's it's sitting in my driveway and 2336 01:47:43,010 --> 01:47:40,619 I it it I I really got to get to it 2337 01:47:45,649 --> 01:47:43,020 someday I'm just going to give it away I 2338 01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,659 have not his 2339 01:47:52,609 --> 01:47:47,280 personal 2340 01:47:55,070 --> 01:47:52,619 have the same year and model that he had 2341 01:47:59,629 --> 01:47:55,080 different color though mine's White 2342 01:48:02,330 --> 01:47:59,639 uh and uh that thing has been uh rotting 2343 01:48:04,910 --> 01:48:02,340 in my driveway since I moved here 2344 01:48:06,830 --> 01:48:04,920 two and a half or three years ago I 2345 01:48:09,169 --> 01:48:06,840 barely started it 2346 01:48:11,169 --> 01:48:09,179 I got a car cover for it just so that I 2347 01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:11,179 don't have to look at it 2348 01:48:15,290 --> 01:48:13,920 uh someday you know my brother's a 2349 01:48:16,490 --> 01:48:15,300 mechanic and usually when I have 2350 01:48:19,790 --> 01:48:16,500 something like that I just give it to 2351 01:48:22,430 --> 01:48:19,800 him but even he doesn't want it uh 2352 01:48:24,590 --> 01:48:22,440 but interestingly I don't know how but I 2353 01:48:27,470 --> 01:48:24,600 ended up with the same year and model of 2354 01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:27,480 the of the Corvette that Bob Lazar once 2355 01:48:31,850 --> 01:48:30,239 had uh and was very proud of it it just 2356 01:48:34,669 --> 01:48:31,860 went from there it just got so far out 2357 01:48:37,010 --> 01:48:34,679 that he was ridiculous but Bill Cooper 2358 01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,020 did start out and he honestly did see 2359 01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:39,360 those papers in the Navy yeah well 2360 01:48:50,930 --> 01:48:47,209 Bob Lazar and Gene familiar were all 2361 01:48:54,290 --> 01:48:50,940 something like 35 or 40 miles away from 2362 01:48:55,490 --> 01:48:54,300 actual Area 51 proper where they filmed 2363 01:48:58,609 --> 01:48:55,500 that stuff 2364 01:49:00,890 --> 01:48:58,619 and from that distance away you are not 2365 01:49:03,250 --> 01:49:00,900 seeing a flying saucer you're going to 2366 01:49:05,870 --> 01:49:03,260 see a light in the sky and many people 2367 01:49:07,370 --> 01:49:05,880 believe that the lights in the sky they 2368 01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:07,380 were seeing were simply the Janet 2369 01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:09,420 airline flights which come in every hour 2370 01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:12,719 in the area 51 sometimes several times 2371 01:49:17,149 --> 01:49:13,920 an hour 2372 01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:17,159 so from 30 or more miles away you're 2373 01:49:21,890 --> 01:49:18,900 going to see lights in the in the sky 2374 01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:21,900 over Area 51 or approaching Area 51 2375 01:49:27,169 --> 01:49:24,960 doesn't mean that he knew when the test 2376 01:49:29,629 --> 01:49:27,179 flights were it might mean that he just 2377 01:49:32,330 --> 01:49:29,639 spent some time out there and saw lights 2378 01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:32,340 in the sky every hour and knew that he 2379 01:49:35,689 --> 01:49:34,320 could fool people and there's all kinds 2380 01:49:38,030 --> 01:49:35,699 of other problems with that original 2381 01:49:41,090 --> 01:49:38,040 video they made including when they said 2382 01:49:43,129 --> 01:49:41,100 it darted back and forth in the sky it 2383 01:49:45,950 --> 01:49:43,139 seems pretty obvious to many people that 2384 01:49:48,709 --> 01:49:45,960 they moved the camera you know to to 2385 01:49:51,109 --> 01:49:48,719 make it appear to have movement and if 2386 01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:51,119 that's all you got from a convicted pimp 2387 01:49:55,850 --> 01:49:53,520 provably convicted pimp fake scientist 2388 01:49:57,410 --> 01:49:55,860 who lied about his education who lied 2389 01:49:59,810 --> 01:49:57,420 about his work history who lied about 2390 01:50:02,270 --> 01:49:59,820 being a scientist at Los Alamos we we 2391 01:50:04,729 --> 01:50:02,280 know now know that all of that is fake 2392 01:50:06,890 --> 01:50:04,739 he was never a scientist at Los Alamos 2393 01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:06,900 his former supervisors have come forward 2394 01:50:11,209 --> 01:50:08,460 with on the record interviewers 2395 01:50:14,030 --> 01:50:11,219 interviews all saying he was not a 2396 01:50:16,609 --> 01:50:14,040 scientist he was a low-level Electronics 2397 01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:16,619 technician from Kirk Meyer and by the 2398 01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:19,440 way kirkmeyer only hired low-level 2399 01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:21,679 Electronics technicians they never hired 2400 01:50:26,930 --> 01:50:24,719 physicists for the lab just technicians 2401 01:50:28,729 --> 01:50:26,940 so you know 2402 01:50:31,010 --> 01:50:28,739 um lights in the sky 2403 01:50:33,770 --> 01:50:31,020 and three guys who are all making money 2404 01:50:35,870 --> 01:50:33,780 from the story John Mayer remember was 2405 01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:35,880 running these UFO conventions and he 2406 01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:38,159 would drag Bob Lazar to them and people 2407 01:50:45,169 --> 01:50:41,520 would pay good money to hear John Lear 2408 01:50:47,330 --> 01:50:45,179 and Bob Lazar retail parts of the story 2409 01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,340 uh and Gene Huff of course was Bob's 2410 01:50:52,189 --> 01:50:49,440 business partner taking a percentage or 2411 01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:52,199 a portion of all the money he made on 2412 01:50:58,850 --> 01:50:56,000 the tester's deal model deal on the uh 2413 01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:58,860 VHS tape that they were selling on this 2414 01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,199 radio show and other business ventures 2415 01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:04,080 together so if that's the best evidence 2416 01:51:07,850 --> 01:51:06,000 they have a video of some lights in the 2417 01:51:09,950 --> 01:51:07,860 sky that you could never tell what it is 2418 01:51:11,930 --> 01:51:09,960 and by the way I'm aware somebody did 2419 01:51:15,590 --> 01:51:11,940 some kind of recreation that's totally 2420 01:51:18,590 --> 01:51:15,600 false that seems to show that it's 2421 01:51:21,770 --> 01:51:18,600 saucer shaped there's literally like two 2422 01:51:24,109 --> 01:51:21,780 pixels in that object in the sky there's 2423 01:51:28,189 --> 01:51:24,119 no way that you can discern its shape 2424 01:51:31,330 --> 01:51:28,199 from the amount of pixels in that video 2425 01:51:33,790 --> 01:51:31,340 um so that just falls apart 2426 01:51:36,649 --> 01:51:33,800 unfortunately like most everything else 2427 01:51:39,169 --> 01:51:36,659 under scrutiny all of the so-called Bob 2428 01:51:42,890 --> 01:51:39,179 Lazar evidence turns out to be fake or 2429 01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:42,900 easy easy to explain away is not really 2430 01:51:48,050 --> 01:51:45,540 evidence right not solid evidence anyway 2431 01:51:50,649 --> 01:51:48,060 I remember correctly amongst those 2432 01:51:53,090 --> 01:51:50,659 Savers he said he saw another trash 2433 01:51:54,770 --> 01:51:53,100 that the military was actually involved 2434 01:51:57,490 --> 01:51:54,780 in the Kennedy assassination now they 2435 01:52:00,890 --> 01:51:57,500 may have been about it 2436 01:52:02,930 --> 01:52:00,900 would be any hard copy alluding to that 2437 01:52:05,229 --> 01:52:02,940 laying around that a chief petty officer 2438 01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:05,239 could get in there 2439 01:52:09,530 --> 01:52:08,159 yeah but if he told me the story he had 2440 01:52:22,030 --> 01:52:09,540 the keys to say for always 2441 01:52:26,750 --> 01:52:24,709 you guys are never this nice off the 2442 01:52:29,950 --> 01:52:26,760 radio 2443 01:52:33,410 --> 01:52:29,960 listen we gotta talk about drugs 2444 01:52:36,350 --> 01:52:33,420 so as Vancouver was the assistant yeah 2445 01:52:39,169 --> 01:52:36,360 okay so here here Rich here's a 2446 01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:39,179 challenge for you go to Los Alamos and 2447 01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,239 find me anybody else that was hired as a 2448 01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,119 technician and then became a senior 2449 01:52:49,310 --> 01:52:47,520 staff level physicist don't you think 2450 01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,320 the people that were his bosses who by 2451 01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:51,360 the way were his bosses the entire time 2452 01:52:54,590 --> 01:52:53,280 he was there he was only there for a 2453 01:52:56,629 --> 01:52:54,600 short time 2454 01:52:58,250 --> 01:52:56,639 don't you think they would know if a 2455 01:53:00,050 --> 01:52:58,260 technician suddenly Rose through the 2456 01:53:01,729 --> 01:53:00,060 ranks and became a senior staff level 2457 01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:01,739 physicist 2458 01:53:06,290 --> 01:53:03,840 I think they would know and by the way 2459 01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:06,300 they were his supervisor the entire time 2460 01:53:11,629 --> 01:53:08,880 that he worked at Los Alamos and they 2461 01:53:14,330 --> 01:53:11,639 said he was a technician for the entire 2462 01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,340 time that he worked at Los Alamos and 2463 01:53:19,370 --> 01:53:16,800 here's another thing once by while 2464 01:53:21,410 --> 01:53:19,380 walking around there with George Knack 2465 01:53:22,850 --> 01:53:21,420 with camera in tow he saw a satellite 2466 01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:22,860 dish and he said oh yeah I remember 2467 01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:25,260 putting that satellite dish in that's 2468 01:53:28,609 --> 01:53:26,880 not something that a senior staff level 2469 01:53:31,370 --> 01:53:28,619 physicist does that's something that a 2470 01:53:32,890 --> 01:53:31,380 low-level Electronics technician does 2471 01:53:35,689 --> 01:53:32,900 and 2472 01:53:39,050 --> 01:53:35,699 besides he was never a direct employee 2473 01:53:41,810 --> 01:53:39,060 of Los Alamos National Labs Los Alamos 2474 01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:41,820 National Labs if he had become a staff 2475 01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:44,280 physicist he would have been an official 2476 01:53:49,970 --> 01:53:47,520 Los Alamos employee and he was never 2477 01:53:52,669 --> 01:53:49,980 a direct employee he was always a 2478 01:53:55,149 --> 01:53:52,679 subcontractor from Kirk Meyer this has 2479 01:53:58,850 --> 01:53:55,159 all been confirmed by multiple Witnesses 2480 01:54:01,370 --> 01:53:58,860 multiple of his supervisors at the lab 2481 01:54:03,709 --> 01:54:01,380 confirmed he was always a technician he 2482 01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:03,719 was never a physicist let alone 2483 01:54:08,689 --> 01:54:06,239 remember a senior staff level physicist 2484 01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,699 is uh the top of the food chain at a lab 2485 01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:11,280 like that he would a senior staff level 2486 01:54:15,590 --> 01:54:13,679 physicist would have I don't know 10 2487 01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:15,600 other physicists working under him doing 2488 01:54:19,609 --> 01:54:17,760 the actual experimenting in projects and 2489 01:54:21,530 --> 01:54:19,619 he just over a senior staff level 2490 01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:21,540 physicist would just oversee all of 2491 01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:23,760 those other people conducting the 2492 01:54:29,090 --> 01:54:27,119 experiments and things no way no way was 2493 01:54:30,770 --> 01:54:29,100 the senior staff level physicist and I 2494 01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:30,780 challenged anybody to find me a 2495 01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:33,540 technician from Kirk Meyer who was hired 2496 01:54:37,850 --> 01:54:34,800 directly 2497 01:54:40,250 --> 01:54:37,860 onto Los Alamos staff to be a physicist 2498 01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,260 you can't and you won't because it never 2499 01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:42,480 happened it doesn't happen 2500 01:54:49,490 --> 01:54:45,119 unfortunately Bob Lazar lied 2501 01:54:52,189 --> 01:54:49,500 and George Napoli and uh Jeremy Corbell 2502 01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:52,199 lied and noticed that they don't want to 2503 01:54:57,470 --> 01:54:55,260 address these interviews done with 2504 01:54:59,450 --> 01:54:57,480 verifiable on the record sources of 2505 01:55:00,530 --> 01:54:59,460 people that were Bob's supervisors at 2506 01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:00,540 the lab 2507 01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,360 he made up being a scientist he was 2508 01:55:06,709 --> 01:55:05,040 never a real scientist you need a 2509 01:55:08,209 --> 01:55:06,719 science degree to be a scientist he 2510 01:55:11,570 --> 01:55:08,219 can't prove that he has a real science 2511 01:55:13,609 --> 01:55:11,580 degree except from degree Mill Pacifica 2512 01:55:15,350 --> 01:55:13,619 University which is you know one of 2513 01:55:17,270 --> 01:55:15,360 those places that you give three hundred 2514 01:55:19,609 --> 01:55:17,280 dollars to and they send you a fancy 2515 01:55:21,649 --> 01:55:19,619 degree to hang on your wall and fool 2516 01:55:24,530 --> 01:55:21,659 your stupid friends with it's not a real 2517 01:55:27,470 --> 01:55:24,540 degree further he would not have been 2518 01:55:30,530 --> 01:55:27,480 accepted into a prestigious University 2519 01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:30,540 like MIT or Caltech with a degree Mill 2520 01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,179 block degree from Pacifica University I 2521 01:55:39,470 --> 01:55:35,760 have that from on the record sources in 2522 01:55:40,970 --> 01:55:39,480 admissions at MIT and Caltech further 2523 01:55:45,950 --> 01:55:40,980 the 2524 01:55:47,930 --> 01:55:45,960 from Caltech I believe was Electronics 2525 01:55:50,270 --> 01:55:47,940 technology they didn't have a master's 2526 01:55:52,310 --> 01:55:50,280 degree in electronics technology at the 2527 01:55:55,910 --> 01:55:52,320 time he claimed to get that degree 2528 01:55:57,290 --> 01:55:55,920 his education is fake his work history 2529 01:56:00,530 --> 01:55:57,300 is fake 2530 01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:00,540 it's all a scam and um 2531 01:56:07,550 --> 01:56:03,360 yeah I'm sorry to tell you that but this 2532 01:56:09,410 --> 01:56:07,560 is after many many uh hours of carefully 2533 01:56:12,649 --> 01:56:09,420 researching these issues and these are 2534 01:56:14,930 --> 01:56:12,659 the things that nap and Corbell 2535 01:56:17,090 --> 01:56:14,940 don't want you to know and right here 2536 01:56:18,609 --> 01:56:17,100 you are repeating their talking points 2537 01:56:21,770 --> 01:56:18,619 their excuses 2538 01:56:24,350 --> 01:56:21,780 we on the side of Truth here we don't 2539 01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:24,360 have excuses we have on the record 2540 01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:26,880 verifiable sources that you can talk to 2541 01:56:30,890 --> 01:56:28,080 too 2542 01:56:33,050 --> 01:56:30,900 and they all say that Bob Lazar was 2543 01:56:36,050 --> 01:56:33,060 never a scientist at Los Alamos National 2544 01:56:42,310 --> 01:56:36,060 Lab he was a technician from start to 2545 01:56:47,090 --> 01:56:44,629 I'm the first time Cooper said anything 2546 01:56:49,129 --> 01:56:47,100 yeah or the only thing I ever heard him 2547 01:56:52,250 --> 01:56:49,139 say directly was it your house John and 2548 01:56:55,729 --> 01:56:52,260 and uh the only thing he had claimed at 2549 01:56:58,669 --> 01:56:55,739 that time was that he was on a ship and 2550 01:57:00,830 --> 01:56:58,679 saw a UFO come out of the water humbling 2551 01:57:02,810 --> 01:57:00,840 into the sky and that and that was it 2552 01:57:05,090 --> 01:57:02,820 and later it changed humbling back down 2553 01:57:06,770 --> 01:57:05,100 in the water and two years later that 2554 01:57:09,890 --> 01:57:06,780 object had become the size of two 2555 01:57:11,810 --> 01:57:09,900 aircraft carriers right okay good I'm 2556 01:57:15,470 --> 01:57:11,820 sorry I thought you were saying that he 2557 01:57:17,089 --> 01:57:15,480 was yes the uh the believer crowd will 2558 01:57:18,830 --> 01:57:17,099 say that well yeah he was initially 2559 01:57:21,410 --> 01:57:18,840 hired as a technician but then he got 2560 01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,420 promotions because he was so smart that 2561 01:57:25,729 --> 01:57:23,520 doesn't happen you know so I'm sorry I 2562 01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,739 misunderstood I didn't mean to be so 2563 01:57:29,810 --> 01:57:27,360 defensive not one schoolmate or 2564 01:57:31,490 --> 01:57:29,820 Professor has come fourth of Lazar was 2565 01:57:33,410 --> 01:57:31,500 account in the college he claims to have 2566 01:57:35,950 --> 01:57:33,420 attended yeah and he's not in any of the 2567 01:57:39,530 --> 01:57:35,960 yearbooks too so that Men In Black 2568 01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,540 erased my uh education that doesn't hold 2569 01:57:43,970 --> 01:57:41,520 water because the Men in Black would 2570 01:57:48,050 --> 01:57:43,980 have had to crawl into every Dusty Attic 2571 01:57:50,089 --> 01:57:48,060 basement garage and steal out all of the 2572 01:57:52,510 --> 01:57:50,099 yearbooks of all of his classmates and 2573 01:57:55,609 --> 01:57:52,520 teachers 2574 01:57:58,490 --> 01:57:55,619 you know go through the yearbooks and 2575 01:58:00,830 --> 01:57:58,500 cut Lazar and any mention of Lazar out 2576 01:58:02,990 --> 01:58:00,840 of all of those yearbooks and then sneak 2577 01:58:04,609 --> 01:58:03,000 them back into everybody's Dusty Attic 2578 01:58:08,089 --> 01:58:04,619 garage basement 2579 01:58:10,550 --> 01:58:08,099 the Men in Black explanation is garbage 2580 01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:10,560 let's see who else can we go let's go 2581 01:58:13,790 --> 01:58:12,480 down the list Tim's good I have not I've 2582 01:58:15,290 --> 01:58:13,800 never heard anyone say anything bad 2583 01:58:17,530 --> 01:58:15,300 about Tim good yeah that doesn't make 2584 01:58:19,970 --> 01:58:17,540 any sense 2585 01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:19,980 was a good friend I saw him a couple 2586 01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:22,320 times in England he came out here I 2587 01:58:26,209 --> 01:58:24,239 drove him up to this side with his 2588 01:58:28,010 --> 01:58:26,219 girlfriend who smoked in the back of the 2589 01:58:30,790 --> 01:58:28,020 damage 2590 01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:30,800 and uh 2591 01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:33,119 Hospitality when he wrote that book he 2592 01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:34,880 wrote two things 2593 01:58:40,910 --> 01:58:38,400 yeah so you need 150 000 to prove us 2594 01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:40,920 wrong I'm not saying that that this 2595 01:58:47,629 --> 01:58:43,260 technology doesn't exist but it's not 2596 01:58:52,850 --> 01:58:50,209 but that's an interesting observation 2597 01:58:54,890 --> 01:58:52,860 maybe go to Bigelow maybe he's got 150 2598 01:58:57,530 --> 01:58:54,900 Grand he could give you right thanks DJ 2599 01:59:00,169 --> 01:58:57,540 dies and thanks for being a member Ray 2600 01:59:02,149 --> 01:59:00,179 uh at the time all physicists of Atlanta 2601 01:59:04,850 --> 01:59:02,159 were brought in from Caltech which he 2602 01:59:07,129 --> 01:59:04,860 didn't go to good point Rich good point 2603 01:59:09,470 --> 01:59:07,139 that's a very good point and they did 2604 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:09,480 not hire physicists out of Kirk Meyer 2605 01:59:15,470 --> 01:59:12,960 Kirk Meyer was a staffing company that 2606 01:59:17,810 --> 01:59:15,480 provided Electronics technicians 2607 01:59:20,689 --> 01:59:17,820 and computer guys that's all they 2608 01:59:22,250 --> 01:59:20,699 provided and by the way I have some 2609 01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:22,260 experience with that being a computer 2610 01:59:26,510 --> 01:59:24,000 guy myself 2611 01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:26,520 I worked at some places including Drexel 2612 01:59:31,310 --> 01:59:28,320 University where I was not a direct 2613 01:59:34,189 --> 01:59:31,320 employee I was a subcontractor 2614 01:59:37,189 --> 01:59:34,199 the company that I worked for 2615 01:59:38,930 --> 01:59:37,199 you know it's it's a it's it's 2616 01:59:41,810 --> 01:59:38,940 pretty common 2617 01:59:45,109 --> 01:59:41,820 the company will provide that technician 2618 01:59:48,169 --> 01:59:45,119 to the lab in my case it was at Drexel 2619 01:59:50,330 --> 01:59:48,179 University and whenever they're paying 2620 01:59:52,189 --> 01:59:50,340 me they're getting double for me that's 2621 01:59:55,070 --> 01:59:52,199 how the system works 2622 01:59:57,229 --> 01:59:55,080 but these Labs don't have time to do 2623 01:59:58,669 --> 01:59:57,239 Staffing or so they depend on these 2624 02:00:01,370 --> 01:59:58,679 staffing companies 2625 02:00:03,649 --> 02:00:01,380 or Personnel companies which will do the 2626 02:00:07,070 --> 02:00:03,659 background checks do the vetting make 2627 02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:07,080 sure the person is is credible and able 2628 02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:10,080 to do the the job required and then they 2629 02:00:14,270 --> 02:00:12,719 send you to the lab and there's usually 2630 02:00:16,669 --> 02:00:14,280 in my case 2631 02:00:18,709 --> 02:00:16,679 the Staffing Company sent me to the lab 2632 02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:18,719 and then I had an interview with some of 2633 02:00:22,010 --> 02:00:20,639 the professors there and they just 2634 02:00:24,350 --> 02:00:22,020 wanted to talk to me and make sure that 2635 02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:24,360 I would be able to do what they required 2636 02:00:29,810 --> 02:00:27,119 which was they needed Linux servers 2637 02:00:32,089 --> 02:00:29,820 built and maintained and I was very good 2638 02:00:33,770 --> 02:00:32,099 at that at the time so I got hired 2639 02:00:36,830 --> 02:00:33,780 instantly 2640 02:00:39,290 --> 02:00:36,840 um from them I mean the the Staffing 2641 02:00:41,390 --> 02:00:39,300 Company checked me out and tested me and 2642 02:00:43,970 --> 02:00:41,400 all that stuff before they sent me but 2643 02:00:48,109 --> 02:00:43,980 that was very common and it's still very 2644 02:00:50,209 --> 02:00:48,119 common today you know uh the the it's 2645 02:00:51,950 --> 02:00:50,219 common that you could work at Los Alamos 2646 02:00:53,390 --> 02:00:51,960 National Labs as a janitor but it 2647 02:00:54,589 --> 02:00:53,400 doesn't mean you really work for the lab 2648 02:00:57,109 --> 02:00:54,599 it means that you work for a 2649 02:00:59,750 --> 02:00:57,119 subcontractor that provides janitor to 2650 02:01:02,689 --> 02:00:59,760 Los Alamos same thing with Bob Lazar he 2651 02:01:05,149 --> 02:01:02,699 was a low-level Electronics guy uh he 2652 02:01:07,070 --> 02:01:05,159 took one course in electronics at Pierce 2653 02:01:09,709 --> 02:01:07,080 Junior College 2654 02:01:11,510 --> 02:01:09,719 um you know so they hired him Kirk Meyer 2655 02:01:13,850 --> 02:01:11,520 hired him and they sent him to Los 2656 02:01:16,310 --> 02:01:13,860 Alamos to perform a task 2657 02:01:19,550 --> 02:01:16,320 very common still is today really 2658 02:01:22,330 --> 02:01:19,560 dishonest he said uh John private with 2659 02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:24,890 and there's another thing the problems 2660 02:01:29,030 --> 02:01:26,639 are not interested in UFOs and 2661 02:01:31,129 --> 02:01:29,040 conspiracy land why is he hanging out at 2662 02:01:32,810 --> 02:01:31,139 John lear's house with Bill Cooper he 2663 02:01:35,870 --> 02:01:32,820 just admitted that as well 2664 02:01:39,350 --> 02:01:35,880 uh the evidence is stacking up and again 2665 02:01:41,870 --> 02:01:39,360 this is why that people who are still 2666 02:01:44,390 --> 02:01:41,880 selling this story today want all of 2667 02:01:47,149 --> 02:01:44,400 this old stuff off the internet 2668 02:01:49,970 --> 02:01:47,159 so that you can't use it to contradict 2669 02:01:52,129 --> 02:01:49,980 their false statements that Bob was or 2670 02:01:54,229 --> 02:01:52,139 never had any interest in UFOs or aliens 2671 02:01:56,750 --> 02:01:54,239 or conspiracies you know who would those 2672 02:01:58,910 --> 02:01:56,760 two sources be uh chairman who said well 2673 02:02:01,729 --> 02:01:58,920 one is Bruce Bill Cooper I think Cooper 2674 02:02:03,290 --> 02:02:01,739 was never my source I was his Source you 2675 02:02:05,149 --> 02:02:03,300 know and the other one was uh he's the 2676 02:02:06,950 --> 02:02:05,159 dentist and I said I've never thought 2677 02:02:08,649 --> 02:02:06,960 that balance is wrong I always thought 2678 02:02:11,450 --> 02:02:08,659 that balance was correct about the stuff 2679 02:02:13,370 --> 02:02:11,460 you talked about so he promised to 2680 02:02:17,410 --> 02:02:13,380 retract in his next next book he never 2681 02:02:20,689 --> 02:02:17,420 did so I still have mine in the box 2682 02:02:23,209 --> 02:02:20,699 so what do you think of the uh the push 2683 02:02:25,490 --> 02:02:23,219 nowadays you know they had the uh the 2684 02:02:28,850 --> 02:02:25,500 budget office investigating the Roswell 2685 02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:28,860 crash and it seems to me that that the 2686 02:02:34,030 --> 02:02:30,960 opponents of the Roswell crash are a lot 2687 02:02:38,890 --> 02:02:34,040 more vociferous nowadays Now The 2688 02:02:43,930 --> 02:02:41,990 just for the sake of argument listen if 2689 02:02:45,770 --> 02:02:43,940 all you had was a community college 2690 02:02:47,930 --> 02:02:45,780 associate's degree because Community 2691 02:02:50,270 --> 02:02:47,940 College is generally only offer two-year 2692 02:02:52,729 --> 02:02:50,280 degrees not even a full bachelor's 2693 02:02:55,609 --> 02:02:52,739 degree you can't get into a master's 2694 02:02:59,450 --> 02:02:55,619 thesis program until you have at least a 2695 02:03:02,270 --> 02:02:59,460 bachelor's degree and good grades as 2696 02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:02,280 well and Bob Lazar had terrible grades 2697 02:03:07,189 --> 02:03:04,080 he was in the bottom fifth of his class 2698 02:03:09,109 --> 02:03:07,199 right uh in high school and he took a 2699 02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:09,119 few courses at Pierce Junior College he 2700 02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:11,040 could never have gotten into a master's 2701 02:03:16,370 --> 02:03:14,400 program at any college let alone a 2702 02:03:19,550 --> 02:03:16,380 prestigious University like Caltech or 2703 02:03:22,930 --> 02:03:19,560 MIT this was all window dressing to sell 2704 02:03:27,290 --> 02:03:22,940 his fake story his education is fake 100 2705 02:03:28,850 --> 02:03:27,300 fake of the project Mogul balloon uh 2706 02:03:30,169 --> 02:03:28,860 story yeah don't you think that they're 2707 02:03:32,450 --> 02:03:30,179 going way overboard and trying to 2708 02:03:34,370 --> 02:03:32,460 discredit Jesse Mars and intelligence 2709 02:03:36,370 --> 02:03:34,380 yeah but the thing is another talking 2710 02:03:39,229 --> 02:03:36,380 about Roswell again 2711 02:03:41,089 --> 02:03:39,239 I don't think we're ever gonna know the 2712 02:03:44,209 --> 02:03:41,099 truth I I don't think it's in the cards 2713 02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:44,219 ever yeah the live violation right like 2714 02:03:47,810 --> 02:03:46,560 I just heard the other day oh yeah April 2715 02:03:51,070 --> 02:03:47,820 April is going to be it they're going to 2716 02:03:53,810 --> 02:03:51,080 start releasing information I 2717 02:03:56,109 --> 02:03:53,820 because the problem is the first little 2718 02:03:58,609 --> 02:03:56,119 bit of information 2719 02:04:01,669 --> 02:03:58,619 why are you spending three years though 2720 02:04:03,950 --> 02:04:01,679 at a two-year college right to get in 2721 02:04:06,530 --> 02:04:03,960 this did he even get it I think 2722 02:04:07,790 --> 02:04:06,540 maybe he got an associate's degree but 2723 02:04:09,830 --> 02:04:07,800 it took him three years to get a 2724 02:04:11,750 --> 02:04:09,840 two-year associate's degree then he's 2725 02:04:12,890 --> 02:04:11,760 supposed to be a genius physicist I want 2726 02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,900 to know more and more and they can't 2727 02:04:17,330 --> 02:04:14,880 listen a genius physicist would not 2728 02:04:19,970 --> 02:04:17,340 spend three years at a local community 2729 02:04:21,589 --> 02:04:19,980 college uh Victor and by the way I want 2730 02:04:24,709 --> 02:04:21,599 you to email me Victor because I have 2731 02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:24,719 some questions for you and uh I need to 2732 02:04:29,209 --> 02:04:27,119 talk to you about a project so uh I hope 2733 02:04:32,209 --> 02:04:29,219 that you will email me yeah tell him I 2734 02:04:33,950 --> 02:04:32,219 was drawing and and why is that what do 2735 02:04:37,129 --> 02:04:33,960 you think that is the other top two or 2736 02:04:40,129 --> 02:04:37,139 three determining factors are I mean I I 2737 02:04:47,350 --> 02:04:40,139 think we're Beyond uh the point where 2738 02:04:53,750 --> 02:04:50,810 together people fear of God fear that if 2739 02:04:57,229 --> 02:04:53,760 you do something bad there will be great 2740 02:05:00,649 --> 02:04:57,239 um if you were to uh remove this 2741 02:05:03,109 --> 02:05:00,659 religious Factor uh bathing through 2742 02:05:03,890 --> 02:05:03,119 society would start breaking down 2743 02:05:05,330 --> 02:05:03,900 um 2744 02:05:07,490 --> 02:05:05,340 yeah it's interesting that they're 2745 02:05:09,470 --> 02:05:07,500 talking about Roswell and here we get 2746 02:05:11,149 --> 02:05:09,480 John Lear telling that age-old story 2747 02:05:13,070 --> 02:05:11,159 that we've all heard millions of times 2748 02:05:14,570 --> 02:05:13,080 about why they keep it secret because 2749 02:05:17,689 --> 02:05:14,580 they're worried that religions were 2750 02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:17,699 breakdown Society will break down and 2751 02:05:22,910 --> 02:05:21,360 and it'll cost too much uh problems in 2752 02:05:26,089 --> 02:05:22,920 society if people knew we're not alone 2753 02:05:28,370 --> 02:05:26,099 in the universe I disagree 2754 02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:28,380 um you know I kind of think that if 2755 02:05:34,189 --> 02:05:31,440 if disclosure were announced tomorrow uh 2756 02:05:35,810 --> 02:05:34,199 you know I still gotta if disclosure 2757 02:05:37,609 --> 02:05:35,820 were announced today I still have to go 2758 02:05:40,430 --> 02:05:37,619 to work tomorrow I don't think very much 2759 02:05:43,070 --> 02:05:40,440 would change would we maybe change our 2760 02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:43,080 uh attitudes towards our fellow human 2761 02:05:46,729 --> 02:05:44,880 hopefully but I don't think anything 2762 02:05:49,070 --> 02:05:46,739 would change so I've never agreed with 2763 02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:49,080 that explanation of why they keep this 2764 02:05:55,010 --> 02:05:51,840 stuff secret the person comes out like 2765 02:05:57,790 --> 02:05:55,020 always asking we uh responses from 2766 02:06:00,589 --> 02:05:57,800 somewhere but we don't know where yeah 2767 02:06:03,169 --> 02:06:00,599 you know we're questioning whether uh 2768 02:06:04,430 --> 02:06:03,179 God is real or that kind of thing and I 2769 02:06:07,010 --> 02:06:04,440 think that's what they don't want to 2770 02:06:09,050 --> 02:06:07,020 happen I agree if that would be the case 2771 02:06:10,910 --> 02:06:09,060 one last thing I'm taking away playing 2772 02:06:13,070 --> 02:06:10,920 with Dad made the aliens too I always 2773 02:06:15,770 --> 02:06:13,080 contended you followed the and theology 2774 02:06:18,290 --> 02:06:15,780 to ride head on and the bottom line is 2775 02:06:20,470 --> 02:06:18,300 that the president of the United States 2776 02:06:23,870 --> 02:06:20,480 if they say they don't believe in the 2777 02:06:26,330 --> 02:06:23,880 stereotypical Christian DJ oh God we 2778 02:06:29,270 --> 02:06:26,340 trust on our money and so you remember 2779 02:06:32,270 --> 02:06:29,280 when that was put on no no thank you 62. 2780 02:06:33,649 --> 02:06:32,280 oh really yeah I agree I wasn't old 2781 02:06:34,910 --> 02:06:33,659 enough to have any money yet then is 2782 02:06:36,410 --> 02:06:34,920 that right 2783 02:06:38,229 --> 02:06:36,420 what did you say oh it said silver 2784 02:06:42,410 --> 02:06:38,239 certificates 2785 02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:42,420 thank God we trusted right and he can't 2786 02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:45,360 so anyway I think that's the battle no 2787 02:06:48,169 --> 02:06:46,800 one wants to wage I mean there's no 2788 02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:48,179 sense in this I think the real question 2789 02:06:56,030 --> 02:06:53,390 who knows when we see them go to church 2790 02:06:57,470 --> 02:06:56,040 on television I'm curious if that's just 2791 02:06:58,910 --> 02:06:57,480 for show and they're playing to the 2792 02:06:59,750 --> 02:06:58,920 Bible though yeah it would be really 2793 02:07:06,650 --> 02:06:59,760 interesting 2794 02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:07,790 [Music] 2795 02:07:13,609 --> 02:07:11,119 hold it up all right area 2796 02:07:14,750 --> 02:07:13,619 51.2 just sent it to me and I got it for 2797 02:07:17,870 --> 02:07:14,760 Christmas and this was taken in 2798 02:07:19,570 --> 02:07:17,880 September of 1965. yeah these are the 2799 02:07:22,129 --> 02:07:19,580 two a twelve Enders 2800 02:07:25,070 --> 02:07:22,139 that's interesting John Lee is on a 2801 02:07:27,290 --> 02:07:25,080 radio show showing pictures of area 51. 2802 02:07:29,330 --> 02:07:27,300 hey dummy they can't see anything you're 2803 02:07:32,570 --> 02:07:29,340 saying I should call them dummy rest in 2804 02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:32,580 peace John Lear but talk about Wackadoo 2805 02:07:36,470 --> 02:07:34,320 like yeah I got this amazing picture of 2806 02:07:39,070 --> 02:07:36,480 Area 51 here 2807 02:07:41,629 --> 02:07:39,080 oh we're on the radio Okay 2808 02:07:44,109 --> 02:07:41,639 12 Hangar and this was the supported 2809 02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:44,119 that they had f101 D's and f-104s 2810 02:07:47,890 --> 02:07:46,560 chasing the uh the airplane during the 2811 02:07:49,729 --> 02:07:47,900 test program these are the YouTube 2812 02:07:51,709 --> 02:07:49,739 hangers right here and that's 2813 02:07:53,330 --> 02:07:51,719 maintenance and this is the old room 2814 02:07:55,070 --> 02:07:53,340 light control tower see that little 2815 02:07:56,570 --> 02:07:55,080 bitty thing right there so that was the 2816 02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:56,580 fire station right here and those are 2817 02:08:03,109 --> 02:07:59,599 the barracks and that further that way 2818 02:08:05,570 --> 02:08:03,119 and that's where they kept the uh V8 um 2819 02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:05,580 a12 trying as they were good I forgot 2820 02:08:10,129 --> 02:08:07,199 what's the difference between the ys12 2821 02:08:13,910 --> 02:08:10,139 and the SR-71 it wasn't what it was the 2822 02:08:15,530 --> 02:08:13,920 nose right yeah the l12 was was the CIA 2823 02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,540 version and that was a single place one 2824 02:08:19,550 --> 02:08:17,760 and then when the Air Force when Sac 2825 02:08:21,229 --> 02:08:19,560 time out the CIA was flying their own 2826 02:08:23,629 --> 02:08:21,239 spy plane they went through Pentagon for 2827 02:08:26,570 --> 02:08:23,639 hey this can't happen we're supposed to 2828 02:08:28,970 --> 02:08:26,580 fly this fire mission so they ran lucky 2829 02:08:31,490 --> 02:08:28,980 build a proof of concept which is a 2830 02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:31,500 two-place a12 which between the yf-12a 2831 02:08:38,350 --> 02:08:33,199 and they built three of those 2832 02:08:41,980 --> 02:08:38,360 built about 35 SR-71 to the airports 2833 02:08:44,629 --> 02:08:41,990 unbeknownst to the airports 2834 02:08:47,570 --> 02:08:44,639 [Music] 2835 02:08:49,010 --> 02:08:47,580 sure well we're about pleasure I think 2836 02:08:50,330 --> 02:08:49,020 we want to take one more song Let's go 2837 02:08:53,149 --> 02:08:50,340 ahead and take a call before you soon 2838 02:08:55,370 --> 02:08:53,159 after go ahead John UFO line yeah I 2839 02:08:58,070 --> 02:08:55,380 called it last week and I just heard you 2840 02:09:00,470 --> 02:08:58,080 guys talking about the yf-12 and SR-71 2841 02:09:01,970 --> 02:09:00,480 differences one thing I'd like to point 2842 02:09:04,129 --> 02:09:01,980 out on the air that I've never heard 2843 02:09:08,589 --> 02:09:04,139 anyone really discuss a lot about these 2844 02:09:12,609 --> 02:09:08,599 aircraft is that the yf-12a carries four 2845 02:09:16,310 --> 02:09:12,619 huge long-range nuclear tipped missiles 2846 02:09:18,250 --> 02:09:16,320 and uh the the Air Force was constantly 2847 02:09:21,649 --> 02:09:18,260 trying to justify this 2848 02:09:23,689 --> 02:09:21,659 in front of Congress and my theory has 2849 02:09:27,729 --> 02:09:23,699 always been this aircraft was 2850 02:09:30,410 --> 02:09:27,739 specifically designed to intercept UFOs 2851 02:09:31,729 --> 02:09:30,420 and the reason for that that's one I've 2852 02:09:34,609 --> 02:09:31,739 heard before 2853 02:09:37,129 --> 02:09:34,619 there has been people who said that the 2854 02:09:39,950 --> 02:09:37,139 a12 and the SR-71 Blackbird were 2855 02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:39,960 designed to intercept UFOs 2856 02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,480 interesting is because of the post 2857 02:09:47,450 --> 02:09:44,400 Doppler radar system of the Dead 2858 02:09:49,550 --> 02:09:47,460 aircraft carried would give a false 2859 02:09:51,709 --> 02:09:49,560 signature to any aircraft that it was 2860 02:09:53,390 --> 02:09:51,719 scanning to fire missiles at and this 2861 02:09:56,209 --> 02:09:53,400 was something that was totally 2862 02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:56,219 unnecessary going up against Soviet 2863 02:10:01,070 --> 02:09:58,560 aircraft at the time because none of the 2864 02:10:03,410 --> 02:10:01,080 Soviet aircraft at the time had radar 2865 02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:03,420 warning detectors they could tell where 2866 02:10:08,089 --> 02:10:06,480 a plane was radar scanning it from 2867 02:10:11,689 --> 02:10:08,099 that's interesting I never heard that 2868 02:10:14,930 --> 02:10:11,699 one before and the last 12a also carried 2869 02:10:16,970 --> 02:10:14,940 uh cameras which were mounted below the 2870 02:10:18,589 --> 02:10:16,980 engines on either side 2871 02:10:21,109 --> 02:10:18,599 who were designed for air-to-air 2872 02:10:24,109 --> 02:10:21,119 photography because the cameras pointed 2873 02:10:26,330 --> 02:10:24,119 forward and rearward whereas the Spy 2874 02:10:29,570 --> 02:10:26,340 version had cameras mounted where the 2875 02:10:32,689 --> 02:10:29,580 missiles were pointing downward to take 2876 02:10:35,450 --> 02:10:32,699 of land right yeah you may be right in 2877 02:10:38,750 --> 02:10:35,460 my theory that the idea was to intercept 2878 02:10:42,850 --> 02:10:38,760 but the problem is you're not he said 2879 02:10:45,050 --> 02:10:42,860 that he did Master's thesis and 2880 02:10:46,850 --> 02:10:45,060 magnetohydrodynamics there's no Master's 2881 02:10:49,790 --> 02:10:46,860 thesis on record 2882 02:10:54,410 --> 02:10:49,800 and uh ask anybody who's written a 2883 02:10:58,189 --> 02:10:56,030 they can 2884 02:11:02,930 --> 02:10:58,199 Master's thesis is like six months worth 2885 02:11:07,729 --> 02:11:05,030 are we supposed to believe that he just 2886 02:11:09,050 --> 02:11:07,739 can't find it right and they wiped it 2887 02:11:10,910 --> 02:11:09,060 for the records that Men In Black 2888 02:11:14,450 --> 02:11:10,920 explanation for why his education 2889 02:11:16,669 --> 02:11:14,460 disappeared is ridiculous babazar is a 2890 02:11:18,890 --> 02:11:16,679 convicted pimp fake scientist he's not a 2891 02:11:22,910 --> 02:11:18,900 scientist I'm sorry he's just not a 2892 02:11:24,890 --> 02:11:22,920 scientist right if he was a scientist 2893 02:11:27,229 --> 02:11:24,900 um and and here's another point on the 2894 02:11:30,109 --> 02:11:27,239 element 115 he said they did every 2895 02:11:32,209 --> 02:11:30,119 conceivable test imaginable that might 2896 02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:32,219 that would mean that they tested it for 2897 02:11:37,370 --> 02:11:35,520 uh you know they tested it for what 2898 02:11:39,410 --> 02:11:37,380 elements it was composed of and what the 2899 02:11:41,390 --> 02:11:39,420 isotopic ratios were 2900 02:11:45,950 --> 02:11:41,400 and if that's true he should be able to 2901 02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:47,810 just like he can't have a particle 2902 02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:49,679 accelerator in his bedroom 2903 02:11:55,310 --> 02:11:52,560 but he claimed that he did UFOs because 2904 02:11:57,229 --> 02:11:55,320 this thing could travel at Mach 3 and 2905 02:11:59,930 --> 02:11:57,239 UFOs to generally 2906 02:12:02,209 --> 02:11:59,940 personal speed up to mark IV from a 2907 02:12:05,330 --> 02:12:02,219 sudden stop and this was our best hope 2908 02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:05,340 at the time of using something to do 2909 02:12:09,830 --> 02:12:07,260 this because that's a whole conspiracy 2910 02:12:12,350 --> 02:12:09,840 theory we only Built the uh all those 2911 02:12:14,810 --> 02:12:12,360 spy planes not to spy on the Soviet 2912 02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:14,820 Union but to catch UFOs there was just 2913 02:12:19,910 --> 02:12:17,280 nothing else available to even attempt 2914 02:12:21,770 --> 02:12:19,920 it what would make you think that UFOs 2915 02:12:23,930 --> 02:12:21,780 would be vulnerable to missile attacks 2916 02:12:26,450 --> 02:12:23,940 well if you used a full stop or radar 2917 02:12:28,189 --> 02:12:26,460 system and you were scanning them they 2918 02:12:30,290 --> 02:12:28,199 wouldn't be able to tell exactly where 2919 02:12:31,970 --> 02:12:30,300 you were scanning them from and if you 2920 02:12:34,370 --> 02:12:31,980 fired a missile one as the missile was 2921 02:12:36,109 --> 02:12:34,380 going at Mach 4 which it had to because 2922 02:12:38,209 --> 02:12:36,119 the plane was traveling at Mach 3. 2923 02:12:41,330 --> 02:12:38,219 you're assuming that the the crafts were 2924 02:12:43,609 --> 02:12:41,340 flying conventionally right 2925 02:12:45,470 --> 02:12:43,619 it was it would be a stroke of what this 2926 02:12:46,850 --> 02:12:45,480 is what they were 2927 02:12:48,770 --> 02:12:46,860 hoping we've got to realize that this 2928 02:12:51,850 --> 02:12:48,780 was the best they could do 2929 02:12:57,169 --> 02:12:54,890 he he's Bob Lazar has said that he used 2930 02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:57,179 to run it on the highway and then also 2931 02:13:02,330 --> 02:13:00,239 there's the Salt Flats out in the desert 2932 02:13:03,770 --> 02:13:02,340 he would run it on the Salt Flats out in 2933 02:13:06,530 --> 02:13:03,780 the desert and 2934 02:13:08,750 --> 02:13:06,540 I guess with the turbine jet engine 2935 02:13:12,350 --> 02:13:08,760 you're really just going straight you're 2936 02:13:14,689 --> 02:13:12,360 not turning much right and uh I believe 2937 02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:14,699 that he or his wife said they got it up 2938 02:13:19,010 --> 02:13:17,520 to 140 miles an hour and that she loved 2939 02:13:21,770 --> 02:13:19,020 the speed turns out she was a 2940 02:13:24,050 --> 02:13:21,780 methamphetamine uh 2941 02:13:26,209 --> 02:13:24,060 addicts for most of her life and hung 2942 02:13:28,850 --> 02:13:26,219 out with the Hell's Angels so uh 2943 02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:28,860 interesting right the two on those uh 2944 02:13:33,229 --> 02:13:30,960 cameras where were they mounted well 2945 02:13:37,490 --> 02:13:33,239 there were two camera pods one mounted 2946 02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:37,500 under each engine okay and they also had 2947 02:13:42,229 --> 02:13:40,079 uh radiation of the vinegar is accounted 2948 02:13:45,069 --> 02:13:42,239 with them and different things that 2949 02:13:47,569 --> 02:13:45,079 could protect anomalies 2950 02:13:51,770 --> 02:13:47,579 and the uh the cameras were mounted 2951 02:13:53,390 --> 02:13:51,780 below the engines on pots with one 2952 02:13:55,490 --> 02:13:53,400 camera facing forward one facing 2953 02:13:57,290 --> 02:13:55,500 rearward well I'll check that out all 2954 02:13:59,390 --> 02:13:57,300 right um I also wanted to ask for obazar 2955 02:14:03,229 --> 02:13:59,400 real quick about the electromagnetic 2956 02:14:05,689 --> 02:14:03,239 pulse effect from the disc press 2957 02:14:08,510 --> 02:14:05,699 um are these is this done with a 2958 02:14:10,490 --> 02:14:08,520 separate generator unit inside the craft 2959 02:14:12,970 --> 02:14:10,500 or is it all connected to the main power 2960 02:14:15,709 --> 02:14:12,980 unit or yeah 2961 02:14:19,729 --> 02:14:15,719 David thanks for being here 2962 02:14:22,189 --> 02:14:19,739 the amplifiers are pulsed uh 2963 02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:22,199 10 microseconds apart 2964 02:14:25,850 --> 02:14:24,480 and that's if you're referring to the 2965 02:14:27,410 --> 02:14:25,860 pulse I mean the reach turned on 2966 02:14:29,330 --> 02:14:27,420 sequentially right so that's not a 2967 02:14:31,550 --> 02:14:29,340 separate self-trans unit that can be 2968 02:14:33,709 --> 02:14:31,560 removed from the craft it's it's part of 2969 02:14:35,390 --> 02:14:33,719 the way the craft works right and that's 2970 02:14:38,149 --> 02:14:35,400 just a side effect of the way 2971 02:14:40,490 --> 02:14:38,159 that works exactly I see 2972 02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,500 um I also have information concerning a 2973 02:14:44,030 --> 02:14:42,719 new Warhead that the United States Air 2974 02:14:45,770 --> 02:14:44,040 Force is putting on the new Advanced 2975 02:14:47,629 --> 02:14:45,780 cruise missile which is an 2976 02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:47,639 electromagnetic pulse Warhead this came 2977 02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:50,400 out in issue of 2978 02:14:53,750 --> 02:14:51,840 I have some magazine around here 2979 02:14:55,250 --> 02:14:53,760 somewhere well a nuclear warhead will 2980 02:14:56,750 --> 02:14:55,260 produce an electron well yeah because 2981 02:14:59,149 --> 02:14:56,760 this does it without a nuclear charge 2982 02:15:01,790 --> 02:14:59,159 this does it using an electromagnetic 2983 02:15:04,129 --> 02:15:01,800 coil and a small explosive charge enough 2984 02:15:06,109 --> 02:15:04,139 to destroy the missile the idea is that 2985 02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:06,119 this thing will produce an amp pulse 2986 02:15:12,169 --> 02:15:09,360 missiles are uh kind of known to exist 2987 02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:12,179 now but this is back in 1995 when nobody 2988 02:15:16,910 --> 02:15:14,239 knew what that was for massive 2989 02:15:19,550 --> 02:15:16,920 electromagnetic pulse that it would you 2990 02:15:22,370 --> 02:15:19,560 know be used against uh headquarters 2991 02:15:24,430 --> 02:15:22,380 installations uh Financial Partners 2992 02:15:27,950 --> 02:15:24,440 where you want to disrupt money systems 2993 02:15:29,390 --> 02:15:27,960 yes we'll talk about that I don't know 2994 02:15:30,970 --> 02:15:29,400 but it's been published in a magazine 2995 02:15:35,689 --> 02:15:30,980 here it is here's the article it's 2996 02:15:39,229 --> 02:15:35,699 magazine is it in it's in an issue from 2997 02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:39,239 uh July August 1993 Journal of military 2998 02:15:44,990 --> 02:15:42,480 Aviation volume two number four 2999 02:15:46,250 --> 02:15:45,000 and this has a special thing in here on 3000 02:15:47,930 --> 02:15:46,260 the upgrades yeah I wonder what it 3001 02:15:51,129 --> 02:15:47,940 tastes like right and it says a very 3002 02:15:53,750 --> 02:15:51,139 significant to the alcm is the so-called 3003 02:15:56,209 --> 02:15:53,760 monuments which are well suited for 3004 02:15:58,189 --> 02:15:56,219 regional or low intensity conflicts the 3005 02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:58,199 Air Force has grown the development of a 3006 02:16:02,689 --> 02:16:00,239 non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse pulse 3007 02:16:04,430 --> 02:16:02,699 generator no he was a full partner in 3008 02:16:06,410 --> 02:16:04,440 the brothel there have been various 3009 02:16:09,410 --> 02:16:06,420 stories that all he did was help them 3010 02:16:11,689 --> 02:16:09,420 with computers or whatever he was a full 3011 02:16:15,050 --> 02:16:11,699 partner in the brothel 3012 02:16:17,390 --> 02:16:15,060 and uh he and his wife bought into the 3013 02:16:18,770 --> 02:16:17,400 brothel and they were full partners with 3014 02:16:21,890 --> 02:16:18,780 the madam 3015 02:16:24,649 --> 02:16:21,900 so you know and at various times George 3016 02:16:25,609 --> 02:16:24,659 Knapp has uh said different versions of 3017 02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:25,619 the story 3018 02:16:31,129 --> 02:16:30,000 Knapp says that Bob Lazar called him up 3019 02:16:34,129 --> 02:16:31,139 and told him that he bought a 3020 02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:34,139 partnership in a in a whorehouse and by 3021 02:16:36,709 --> 02:16:35,760 the way that whorehouse is right on your 3022 02:16:38,929 --> 02:16:36,719 block 3023 02:16:41,509 --> 02:16:38,939 you know it was right in George Knapp's 3024 02:16:43,669 --> 02:16:41,519 neighborhood and am confirmed 3025 02:16:45,950 --> 02:16:43,679 is generated by creating a magnetic 3026 02:16:48,530 --> 02:16:45,960 field in a coil and then compressing it 3027 02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:48,540 to a conventional explosives okay well 3028 02:16:51,770 --> 02:16:50,399 thank you for the info we have to Andrew 3029 02:16:52,910 --> 02:16:51,780 our phone lines for tonight but thanks 3030 02:16:55,070 --> 02:16:52,920 for the call and give us a call another 3031 02:16:57,230 --> 02:16:55,080 time we'd like to thank everybody for 3032 02:16:58,969 --> 02:16:57,240 listening and thank Our Guest John layer 3033 02:17:00,469 --> 02:16:58,979 John I hope you come join us again it 3034 02:17:03,049 --> 02:17:00,479 sure will and uh we'd like to wish 3035 02:17:05,530 --> 02:17:03,059 everybody a Merry Christmas December so 3036 02:17:08,209 --> 02:17:05,540 Merry Christmas we will 3037 02:17:10,910 --> 02:17:08,219 and there we have it Bob Lazar John Lear 3038 02:17:13,490 --> 02:17:10,920 and Gene Huff's lost UFO radio show from 3039 02:17:16,370 --> 02:17:13,500 December 1995. 3040 02:17:19,129 --> 02:17:16,380 and that was incredibly interesting and 3041 02:17:22,190 --> 02:17:19,139 by the way I wanted to uh listen to this 3042 02:17:24,589 --> 02:17:22,200 and bring you with me so uh we've got 3043 02:17:28,310 --> 02:17:24,599 time for comments and questions on this 3044 02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:28,320 uh I think that this was interesting for 3045 02:17:34,310 --> 02:17:31,200 several reasons the first reason is 3046 02:17:36,410 --> 02:17:34,320 um that in this interview we get to see 3047 02:17:38,750 --> 02:17:36,420 that Bob Lazar is very well informed 3048 02:17:41,150 --> 02:17:38,760 about UFOs and aliens and all the 3049 02:17:43,910 --> 02:17:41,160 stories going around at the time 3050 02:17:46,730 --> 02:17:43,920 for a guy who has no interest in UFOs he 3051 02:17:51,530 --> 02:17:46,740 seems incredibly well informed about 3052 02:17:53,089 --> 02:17:51,540 these uh these events going on uh what 3053 02:17:56,990 --> 02:17:53,099 stories people are talking about 3054 02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:57,000 including alien autopsy film uh the 3055 02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:00,000 Aztec UFO crash Dulce base New Mexico 3056 02:18:07,129 --> 02:18:02,880 tunnels to area 51. 3057 02:18:09,650 --> 02:18:07,139 uh Bill Moore uh you know and what's 3058 02:18:11,629 --> 02:18:09,660 going on with him and more oh and by the 3059 02:18:13,250 --> 02:18:11,639 way I think I got Bill Cooper and Bill 3060 02:18:16,190 --> 02:18:13,260 Moore confused at the beginning of the 3061 02:18:18,530 --> 02:18:16,200 broadcast so I apologize 3062 02:18:20,929 --> 02:18:18,540 um Bill Moore was a well-known UFO 3063 02:18:22,849 --> 02:18:20,939 researcher that researched Roswell 3064 02:18:24,950 --> 02:18:22,859 Etc and he was the one who got involved 3065 02:18:28,190 --> 02:18:24,960 with Dodie and started spying on the UFO 3066 02:18:30,110 --> 02:18:28,200 Community Bill Cooper was the guy who 3067 02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,120 wrote Behold a Pale Horse let me just 3068 02:18:33,730 --> 02:18:32,399 check just to be sure 3069 02:18:39,349 --> 02:18:33,740 um 3070 02:18:39,359 --> 02:18:46,129 they hold a Pale Horse book yeah 3071 02:18:46,139 --> 02:18:49,150 yeah 3072 02:18:53,570 --> 02:18:52,129 Bill Cooper broke Behold The Pale Horse 3073 02:18:55,490 --> 02:18:53,580 so I misspoke at the beginning of the 3074 02:18:58,129 --> 02:18:55,500 broadcast I apologize some of these guys 3075 02:19:00,530 --> 02:18:58,139 disappear from conspiracy land it was 3076 02:19:02,830 --> 02:19:00,540 Bill Cooper who died by uh most people 3077 02:19:06,049 --> 02:19:02,840 would say suicide by cop 3078 02:19:08,049 --> 02:19:06,059 he shot at sheriffs trying to serve a 3079 02:19:12,049 --> 02:19:08,059 warrant and they shot and killed him 3080 02:19:14,990 --> 02:19:12,059 Bill Moore was the biggest UFO 3081 02:19:16,969 --> 02:19:15,000 researcher for a long time in the 80s 3082 02:19:20,089 --> 02:19:16,979 and then what happened is he got caught 3083 02:19:21,950 --> 02:19:20,099 spying on the UFO community and the UFO 3084 02:19:24,349 --> 02:19:21,960 community did not like that he was 3085 02:19:26,030 --> 02:19:24,359 spying on the UFO community and 3086 02:19:28,190 --> 02:19:26,040 researchers for the government in 3087 02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:28,200 exchange he was supposed to be given 3088 02:19:33,709 --> 02:19:30,719 the core Secrets secret documents secret 3089 02:19:35,089 --> 02:19:33,719 knowledge about aliens and UFOs they 3090 02:19:37,610 --> 02:19:35,099 were going to bring him into the fold 3091 02:19:40,610 --> 02:19:37,620 and telling the truth but they wanted 3092 02:19:43,129 --> 02:19:40,620 him to spy on other UFO researchers and 3093 02:19:46,129 --> 02:19:43,139 UFO conventions and all of that and tell 3094 02:19:49,610 --> 02:19:46,139 them what the UFO Community knew about 3095 02:19:50,929 --> 02:19:49,620 UFOs very very interesting history there 3096 02:19:57,110 --> 02:19:50,939 and Bill 3097 02:19:59,630 --> 02:19:57,120 Bill Cooper was killed uh and but Bill 3098 02:20:02,510 --> 02:19:59,640 Moore disappeared from the world of UFOs 3099 02:20:04,310 --> 02:20:02,520 and the last that I heard Bill Moore was 3100 02:20:06,830 --> 02:20:04,320 a janitor at a high school in 3101 02:20:08,330 --> 02:20:06,840 Pennsylvania I spent some time trying to 3102 02:20:10,730 --> 02:20:08,340 track him down but as you can imagine 3103 02:20:14,510 --> 02:20:10,740 with the name as common as more 3104 02:20:16,670 --> 02:20:14,520 it was virtually impossible 3105 02:20:19,070 --> 02:20:16,680 I still once in a while think I'm going 3106 02:20:21,230 --> 02:20:19,080 to pick up that file folder I have on 3107 02:20:22,849 --> 02:20:21,240 him and try to find him because I would 3108 02:20:24,250 --> 02:20:22,859 love to hear what he thinks about 3109 02:20:27,170 --> 02:20:24,260 current day 3110 02:20:32,990 --> 02:20:27,180 ufology or UFO land 3111 02:20:38,809 --> 02:20:35,330 Renee Cruz asks what about ufologist 3112 02:20:40,790 --> 02:20:38,819 Wendell Steve in sunglasses ufology dude 3113 02:20:43,070 --> 02:20:40,800 yeah that guy was a wekadu who was never 3114 02:20:44,630 --> 02:20:43,080 in the military Wendell Stevens did a 3115 02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:44,640 piss report at least to the best of my 3116 02:20:48,230 --> 02:20:46,800 knowledge of recollection or maybe he 3117 02:20:51,349 --> 02:20:48,240 was in the military but there's a whole 3118 02:20:54,469 --> 02:20:51,359 lot of wackadoo stories including that 3119 02:20:57,670 --> 02:20:54,479 uh that area 51 so-called whistleblower 3120 02:21:01,670 --> 02:20:57,680 or S4 whistleblower spent some time 3121 02:21:04,130 --> 02:21:01,680 uh with Jim delatoso at Jim delatoso's 3122 02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:04,140 home and apparently left a finger in the 3123 02:21:07,690 --> 02:21:06,479 mailbox and 3124 02:21:10,070 --> 02:21:07,700 um 3125 02:21:12,590 --> 02:21:10,080 was like you got to get this guy out of 3126 02:21:14,270 --> 02:21:12,600 here Wendell and uh 3127 02:21:16,030 --> 02:21:14,280 Jim Delta says to tell some crazy 3128 02:21:18,410 --> 02:21:16,040 stories about that guy 3129 02:21:20,090 --> 02:21:18,420 and most credible researchers believe 3130 02:21:22,190 --> 02:21:20,100 that Wendell Stevens first of all 3131 02:21:24,170 --> 02:21:22,200 Wendell Stevens was a child molester who 3132 02:21:26,570 --> 02:21:24,180 you who believed everybody 3133 02:21:28,010 --> 02:21:26,580 so this guy came along and they started 3134 02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,020 giving him money when they stopped 3135 02:21:33,230 --> 02:21:30,960 giving him money he bailed on them 3136 02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:33,240 uh I don't believe that that story was 3137 02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:35,040 credible just based on the fact that a 3138 02:21:39,170 --> 02:21:36,960 child molester brought us that story I 3139 02:21:41,570 --> 02:21:39,180 don't trust child molesters especially 3140 02:21:43,790 --> 02:21:41,580 for controversial information that may 3141 02:21:45,950 --> 02:21:43,800 or may not be true because that requires 3142 02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:45,960 some Trust 3143 02:21:50,809 --> 02:21:47,760 um I don't think that that S4 3144 02:21:53,570 --> 02:21:50,819 whistleblower is at all credible 3145 02:21:55,550 --> 02:21:53,580 uh you know they used to get them to do 3146 02:21:57,469 --> 02:21:55,560 interviews by buying him packs of 3147 02:21:59,030 --> 02:21:57,479 cigarettes and bottles of liquor 3148 02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:59,040 that'll tell you everything you need to 3149 02:22:02,270 --> 02:22:00,720 know about that whistleblower right yeah 3150 02:22:04,250 --> 02:22:02,280 tell us about those aliens here's a 3151 02:22:07,130 --> 02:22:04,260 bottle of Jack Daniels and and three 3152 02:22:09,349 --> 02:22:07,140 packs of Marlboro Reds 3153 02:22:11,389 --> 02:22:09,359 uh interestingly 3154 02:22:13,370 --> 02:22:11,399 uh that guy disappeared as well after 3155 02:22:15,170 --> 02:22:13,380 Wendell Stevens milked him to make as 3156 02:22:16,190 --> 02:22:15,180 much money as he possibly could from 3157 02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,200 that guy 3158 02:22:20,570 --> 02:22:18,479 but you know I don't know if anybody 3159 02:22:22,429 --> 02:22:20,580 ever verified his military credentials 3160 02:22:26,570 --> 02:22:22,439 but he certainly couldn't prove that he 3161 02:22:29,150 --> 02:22:26,580 worked at area 51. so uh I'm gonna put 3162 02:22:31,130 --> 02:22:29,160 up my uh notice that the show is not 3163 02:22:34,130 --> 02:22:31,140 over we have made our way through 3164 02:22:37,070 --> 02:22:34,140 through this wonderful uh Journey Back 3165 02:22:38,630 --> 02:22:37,080 to December of 1995. it's Nostalgia 3166 02:22:40,910 --> 02:22:38,640 night here on true Seekers maybe we'll 3167 02:22:43,250 --> 02:22:40,920 do this again I sure enjoyed it and I 3168 02:22:45,849 --> 02:22:43,260 hope you did too but there's still lots 3169 02:22:48,469 --> 02:22:45,859 to talk about uh 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and by the way those where they asked 3282 02:28:27,469 --> 02:28:26,100 yes I was a little bit behind we're 3283 02:28:29,090 --> 02:28:27,479 always playing catch-up with that it's 3284 02:28:31,010 --> 02:28:29,100 now up to date except for the episode 3285 02:28:34,550 --> 02:28:31,020 that you're watching now which will be 3286 02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:34,560 upload uploaded tomorrow 3287 02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:36,960 sometime tomorrow afternoon before 3288 02:28:40,849 --> 02:28:39,120 dinner time or so sometime between 2 and 3289 02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:40,859 6 p.m this episode will be available 3290 02:28:46,010 --> 02:28:43,680 generally I try to do them the next day 3291 02:28:48,770 --> 02:28:46,020 occasionally I get one day behind we're 3292 02:28:49,610 --> 02:28:48,780 all up to date now on that you can also 3293 02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:49,620 watch 3294 02:28:56,210 --> 02:28:53,040 all of our videos and sign up for our 3295 02:28:57,950 --> 02:28:56,220 email list and um 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released if there's a new video 3310 02:29:31,070 --> 02:29:28,920 you get a quick email new video released 3311 02:29:33,290 --> 02:29:31,080 for all you people who tell me you don't 3312 02:29:35,630 --> 02:29:33,300 get the YouTube notifications this is a 3313 02:29:38,090 --> 02:29:35,640 great option and hopefully will will 3314 02:29:41,809 --> 02:29:38,100 help us to stay in touch in the event of 3315 02:29:44,450 --> 02:29:41,819 this uh censorship gone mad uh that many 3316 02:29:47,210 --> 02:29:44,460 channels have dealt with you know there 3317 02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:47,220 was a culling of sorts some time ago and 3318 02:29:51,110 --> 02:29:48,000 uh 3319 02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:51,120 many many conspiracy related YouTube 3320 02:29:57,590 --> 02:29:54,960 channels just got Stamped Out uh luckily 3321 02:29:59,690 --> 02:29:57,600 we're still here we survived the great 3322 02:30:02,270 --> 02:29:59,700 culling right 3323 02:30:04,429 --> 02:30:02,280 um but you never know uh that that knob 3324 02:30:07,010 --> 02:30:04,439 could get turned up again and you could 3325 02:30:09,349 --> 02:30:07,020 go to uh two Seekers YouTube one day and 3326 02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:09,359 we'll just be gone so 3327 02:30:14,210 --> 02:30:12,000 uh we don't want to lose touch the best 3328 02:30:15,710 --> 02:30:14,220 way to do that is to be sure to sign up 3329 02:30:18,530 --> 02:30:15,720 for a mailing list from our website 3330 02:30:20,090 --> 02:30:18,540 there I'm getting the list of of all 3331 02:30:21,770 --> 02:30:20,100 those email addresses and we'll be doing 3332 02:30:23,929 --> 02:30:21,780 a monthly newsletter about what's coming 3333 02:30:25,370 --> 02:30:23,939 the following month 3334 02:30:27,469 --> 02:30:25,380 um and I will definitely be starting 3335 02:30:29,690 --> 02:30:27,479 that the newsletter will be out to 3336 02:30:31,969 --> 02:30:29,700 anybody on that mailing list 3337 02:30:34,070 --> 02:30:31,979 um by the end of the month I'm going to 3338 02:30:38,210 --> 02:30:34,080 make that part of my end month routine 3339 02:30:41,030 --> 02:30:38,220 along with you know uh trying to uh 3340 02:30:44,450 --> 02:30:41,040 upload more stuff to patreon and the 3341 02:30:46,670 --> 02:30:44,460 members only section also this new show 3342 02:30:48,590 --> 02:30:46,680 format true Seekers presents we debuted 3343 02:30:50,270 --> 02:30:48,600 one today at 2PM thanks to everybody who 3344 02:30:51,950 --> 02:30:50,280 showed up but I screwed it up and 3345 02:30:54,469 --> 02:30:51,960 somehow cut off four minutes of the end 3346 02:30:55,969 --> 02:30:54,479 of that video I haven't been in the 3347 02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:55,979 editor render but I don't want to render 3348 02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,600 it at the same time we're doing the show 3349 02:31:01,490 --> 02:30:59,520 because that sucks all the processor and 3350 02:31:04,429 --> 02:31:01,500 it might have affected the the show's 3351 02:31:06,349 --> 02:31:04,439 broadcast so it'll take about an hour to 3352 02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:06,359 render and then I will make that 3353 02:31:10,070 --> 02:31:08,880 available immediately we've got some 3354 02:31:13,790 --> 02:31:10,080 other 3355 02:31:16,010 --> 02:31:13,800 um of these new formats so going forward 3356 02:31:18,290 --> 02:31:16,020 we're going to be doing four live shows 3357 02:31:21,650 --> 02:31:18,300 a week Monday through Thursday at 9 00 3358 02:31:23,870 --> 02:31:21,660 PM eastern time and then I may be doing 3359 02:31:26,450 --> 02:31:23,880 some additional we're going to call them 3360 02:31:29,450 --> 02:31:26,460 bonus shows either live or pre-recorded 3361 02:31:31,130 --> 02:31:29,460 at 2 pm eastern time so for those of you 3362 02:31:33,050 --> 02:31:31,140 who asked me for afternoon shows you're 3363 02:31:33,770 --> 02:31:33,060 going to get what you want 3364 02:31:35,450 --> 02:31:33,780 um 3365 02:31:37,969 --> 02:31:35,460 we're going to be putting our foot on 3366 02:31:40,010 --> 02:31:37,979 the gas as we race towards our original 3367 02:31:42,050 --> 02:31:40,020 goals one of the two of the original 3368 02:31:44,210 --> 02:31:42,060 goals with my channel was one million 3369 02:31:46,010 --> 02:31:44,220 views and 10 000 subscribers and we're 3370 02:31:48,170 --> 02:31:46,020 nearing both of those goals but I'm 3371 02:31:49,969 --> 02:31:48,180 getting a little impatient so I think 3372 02:31:52,849 --> 02:31:49,979 that we could cut the time that's going 3373 02:31:55,670 --> 02:31:52,859 to take significantly by throwing some 3374 02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:55,680 extra shows in every week as I have time 3375 02:32:01,250 --> 02:31:58,800 and am available to do so no place that 3376 02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:01,260 I would rather be than here with you so 3377 02:32:05,150 --> 02:32:03,120 questions or comments please put them in 3378 02:32:07,250 --> 02:32:05,160 all capital letters uh people are 3379 02:32:10,190 --> 02:32:07,260 talking about how terrible the new third 3380 02:32:13,370 --> 02:32:10,200 phase of moon documentary is is 3381 02:32:15,530 --> 02:32:13,380 isn't there two though is it which one 3382 02:32:17,770 --> 02:32:15,540 is the one there's two now one of them 3383 02:32:20,210 --> 02:32:17,780 is about free energy that he collected 3384 02:32:22,130 --> 02:32:20,220 six hundred and fifty thousand dollars 3385 02:32:25,429 --> 02:32:22,140 to make that one right 3386 02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:25,439 and one of them is uh with third phase 3387 02:32:30,650 --> 02:32:28,319 is it like day after disclosure or dawn 3388 02:32:33,050 --> 02:32:30,660 of disclosure or what anything with 3389 02:32:35,750 --> 02:32:33,060 disclosure on it is [\h__\h] 3390 02:32:39,950 --> 02:32:35,760 whether it's a podcast 3391 02:32:43,010 --> 02:32:39,960 go a video show a documentary word 3392 02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:43,020 disclosure in it it's [\h__\h] that's just 3393 02:32:49,010 --> 02:32:45,600 been my personal experience uh you know 3394 02:32:51,590 --> 02:32:49,020 lots of uh lots of coming soon New 3395 02:32:54,770 --> 02:32:51,600 Revelations right but never any real or 3396 02:32:59,090 --> 02:32:54,780 verifiable evidence right 3397 02:33:02,210 --> 02:32:59,100 and uh Third Coast Swing oh that reminds 3398 02:33:04,490 --> 02:33:02,220 me we have to thank uh Third Coast Swing 3399 02:33:05,870 --> 02:33:04,500 I checked in with the PayPal pledgers by 3400 02:33:07,670 --> 02:33:05,880 the way if you want to support us by 3401 02:33:09,050 --> 02:33:07,680 PayPal the instructions on how to do 3402 02:33:13,070 --> 02:33:09,060 that are in the description of the video 3403 02:33:19,250 --> 02:33:13,080 third Third Coast Swing says thanks for 3404 02:33:23,510 --> 02:33:21,010 excess I'm sorry 3405 02:33:25,370 --> 02:33:23,520 well thank you Third Coast Swing for the 3406 02:33:27,110 --> 02:33:25,380 kind and generous PayPal pledge of five 3407 02:33:29,330 --> 02:33:27,120 dollars thank you for your kindness your 3408 02:33:31,309 --> 02:33:29,340 generosity and your support of the show 3409 02:33:33,170 --> 02:33:31,319 it is much much appreciated and we thank 3410 02:33:36,290 --> 02:33:33,180 all of you kind and generous benefactors 3411 02:33:38,030 --> 02:33:36,300 we read every single Super Chat uh thank 3412 02:33:41,690 --> 02:33:38,040 you Third Coast Swing for helping us to 3413 02:33:45,530 --> 02:33:44,510 praising the cash pretty good lately uh 3414 02:33:49,490 --> 02:33:45,540 and uh 3415 02:33:52,370 --> 02:33:49,500 so somebody asked uh recently about the 3416 02:33:55,429 --> 02:33:52,380 new studio and uh I thought I had 3417 02:33:57,650 --> 02:33:55,439 mentioned it but if I hadn't uh what I 3418 02:34:01,550 --> 02:33:57,660 can tell you is that the ground is 3419 02:34:03,410 --> 02:34:01,560 Frozen at the new land which is near my 3420 02:34:04,490 --> 02:34:03,420 outer cabin in the Pocono Mountains of 3421 02:34:07,610 --> 02:34:04,500 Pennsylvania 3422 02:34:11,150 --> 02:34:07,620 uh so we can't begin building until the 3423 02:34:13,370 --> 02:34:11,160 ground falls out and uh also there's uh 3424 02:34:17,210 --> 02:34:13,380 I think there's uh something like 18 3425 02:34:18,770 --> 02:34:17,220 inches of snow on the ground right now 3426 02:34:21,170 --> 02:34:18,780 um it's been freezing temperatures so 3427 02:34:23,510 --> 02:34:21,180 the snow's got to melt the ground's 3428 02:34:26,809 --> 02:34:23,520 gotta unfreeze 3429 02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:26,819 I think in the next month I will be at 3430 02:34:31,490 --> 02:34:29,520 the new studio location which is just a 3431 02:34:33,530 --> 02:34:31,500 beautiful plot of land in the middle of 3432 02:34:36,110 --> 02:34:33,540 nowhere in the mountains 3433 02:34:38,950 --> 02:34:36,120 um if Forest at land there is no 3434 02:34:42,650 --> 02:34:38,960 electricity there is no anything 3435 02:34:45,889 --> 02:34:42,660 it's just very rural land the road is an 3436 02:34:48,590 --> 02:34:45,899 Old Logging Road it's not real road that 3437 02:34:50,929 --> 02:34:48,600 may be an issue I have been the last few 3438 02:34:52,490 --> 02:34:50,939 times I was there I I hiked there from 3439 02:34:56,030 --> 02:34:52,500 the cabin it's about 3440 02:34:58,670 --> 02:34:56,040 three miles from the cabin to this uh 3441 02:34:59,710 --> 02:34:58,680 studio location 3442 02:35:04,910 --> 02:34:59,720 um 3443 02:35:08,570 --> 02:35:04,920 have a quad or something to get there 3444 02:35:11,090 --> 02:35:08,580 and back uh faster than walking because 3445 02:35:13,490 --> 02:35:11,100 as you can well imagine if you spend it 3446 02:35:16,070 --> 02:35:13,500 and die if I spend an entire day doing 3447 02:35:17,870 --> 02:35:16,080 very hard physical labor there it's 3448 02:35:20,990 --> 02:35:17,880 gonna suck to have to walk three or four 3449 02:35:22,550 --> 02:35:21,000 miles back to the cabin to get some 3450 02:35:25,490 --> 02:35:22,560 dinner or rest 3451 02:35:27,770 --> 02:35:25,500 um until there is a physical structure 3452 02:35:30,530 --> 02:35:27,780 on that land I'm not staying there 3453 02:35:32,990 --> 02:35:30,540 overnight because there's Bears lots of 3454 02:35:35,690 --> 02:35:33,000 bears black bears and in the springtime 3455 02:35:38,750 --> 02:35:35,700 is the worst well if you want to see 3456 02:35:42,290 --> 02:35:38,760 bears in the springtime is the best time 3457 02:35:44,510 --> 02:35:42,300 for Bears if you don't want to see Bears 3458 02:35:45,710 --> 02:35:44,520 the springtime is the worst time for 3459 02:35:48,410 --> 02:35:45,720 Bears because 3460 02:35:50,270 --> 02:35:48,420 coming out of hibernation and and quite 3461 02:35:53,150 --> 02:35:50,280 often to be honest they're pissed off 3462 02:35:56,570 --> 02:35:53,160 and hungry that's when they smash over 3463 02:35:58,450 --> 02:35:56,580 trash cans and try to break into cabins 3464 02:36:03,469 --> 02:35:58,460 and stuff they are 3465 02:36:06,110 --> 02:36:03,479 they want food you know and um 3466 02:36:09,910 --> 02:36:06,120 I guess because of covid the Bears got a 3467 02:36:12,950 --> 02:36:09,920 lot worse there for all through covid 3468 02:36:14,750 --> 02:36:12,960 but once the lockdowns ended and people 3469 02:36:17,150 --> 02:36:14,760 returned to the restaurants and all 3470 02:36:19,250 --> 02:36:17,160 those dumpsters were available to them I 3471 02:36:21,230 --> 02:36:19,260 didn't see as many bears 3472 02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:21,240 um sorry to go off on a tangent about 3473 02:36:28,309 --> 02:36:24,240 bears but my point is at the new land I 3474 02:36:32,870 --> 02:36:28,319 can't stay there over like for a weekend 3475 02:36:35,750 --> 02:36:32,880 in a tent well I could but I would 3476 02:36:37,790 --> 02:36:35,760 prefer not to because 3477 02:36:39,830 --> 02:36:37,800 I I don't 3478 02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:39,840 you know uh my neighbor at the cabin 3479 02:36:44,990 --> 02:36:42,240 Matt says oh Bears won't Bears won't 3480 02:36:48,530 --> 02:36:45,000 mess with a 10. but it's still a piece 3481 02:36:50,690 --> 02:36:48,540 of fabric between you and a 450 pound or 3482 02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:50,700 500 pound black bear that could kill you 3483 02:36:56,510 --> 02:36:54,000 so no until there's a physical structure 3484 02:36:58,070 --> 02:36:56,520 there even a small one I won't stay 3485 02:37:00,469 --> 02:36:58,080 there all weekend so I'm gonna have to 3486 02:37:03,050 --> 02:37:00,479 hike back and forth fourth until we 3487 02:37:05,929 --> 02:37:03,060 figure out this road problem we have a 3488 02:37:08,510 --> 02:37:05,939 a neighbor miles two or three miles down 3489 02:37:10,849 --> 02:37:08,520 that dirt road that has the road blocked 3490 02:37:12,410 --> 02:37:10,859 with a plow truck that looks like it 3491 02:37:14,030 --> 02:37:12,420 hasn't run it's just in the middle of 3492 02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:14,040 the road and you can't get around it so 3493 02:37:18,469 --> 02:37:16,560 I have to talk to that neighbor and then 3494 02:37:20,690 --> 02:37:18,479 I'm gonna have to spend probably two 3495 02:37:22,610 --> 02:37:20,700 weekends just clearing the road there's 3496 02:37:25,550 --> 02:37:22,620 all kinds of Fallen trees in the road 3497 02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:25,560 and debris and it's really just a dirt 3498 02:37:29,809 --> 02:37:28,319 path it's like a hiking trail but I 3499 02:37:31,130 --> 02:37:29,819 should be able to get my car in and out 3500 02:37:31,730 --> 02:37:31,140 of there 3501 02:37:35,150 --> 02:37:31,740 um 3502 02:37:37,370 --> 02:37:35,160 once we clear the the blockage 3503 02:37:40,130 --> 02:37:37,380 um so I might build a very small 3504 02:37:44,630 --> 02:37:40,140 structure first that will be a temporary 3505 02:37:46,670 --> 02:37:44,640 cabin in the you know uh bear shelter uh 3506 02:37:48,349 --> 02:37:46,680 you need something with solid walls 3507 02:37:50,750 --> 02:37:48,359 there's Bears around I'm not messing 3508 02:37:52,910 --> 02:37:50,760 around and there's also coyotes which 3509 02:37:55,370 --> 02:37:52,920 coyotes have never bothered me usually 3510 02:37:57,230 --> 02:37:55,380 you yell at them and they run 3511 02:37:58,969 --> 02:37:57,240 um but still there's animals out there 3512 02:38:00,950 --> 02:37:58,979 in those woods that could kill you I'm 3513 02:38:04,849 --> 02:38:00,960 not I'm not staying there all weekend in 3514 02:38:06,830 --> 02:38:04,859 a tent I just don't feel comfortable uh 3515 02:38:10,670 --> 02:38:06,840 so I'm probably gonna build a very small 3516 02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,680 little cabin first like a 10 by 12 or 3517 02:38:16,010 --> 02:38:13,439 something like that just just enough to 3518 02:38:17,450 --> 02:38:16,020 uh have a shelter from the bear so I 3519 02:38:19,490 --> 02:38:17,460 don't have to walk back and forth I 3520 02:38:21,410 --> 02:38:19,500 don't know I'm gonna figure it out but 3521 02:38:24,770 --> 02:38:21,420 people have been asking so what I will 3522 02:38:28,429 --> 02:38:24,780 say is I will be on that land Building 3523 02:38:30,530 --> 02:38:28,439 that cabin and building the studio 3524 02:38:32,510 --> 02:38:30,540 maybe a little cabin first which will 3525 02:38:35,330 --> 02:38:32,520 then become like a little workshop or a 3526 02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:35,340 storage shed or something who knows but 3527 02:38:40,490 --> 02:38:38,160 I have to get I will get started on that 3528 02:38:42,650 --> 02:38:40,500 as soon as I possibly can I'm making 3529 02:38:44,090 --> 02:38:42,660 good progress at finishing off the few 3530 02:38:46,250 --> 02:38:44,100 things that need to be done at the other 3531 02:38:47,090 --> 02:38:46,260 cabin and then I'm giving that cabin to 3532 02:38:51,110 --> 02:38:47,100 my wife 3533 02:38:53,389 --> 02:38:51,120 I mean it's already hers but you know 3534 02:38:55,250 --> 02:38:53,399 she uh she comes every summer and 3535 02:38:57,170 --> 02:38:55,260 changes everything and kind of you know 3536 02:38:59,570 --> 02:38:57,180 I'm there during the winter by myself 3537 02:39:01,610 --> 02:38:59,580 and everything is where I put it 3538 02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:01,620 and stays there and then she and the 3539 02:39:06,410 --> 02:39:03,840 kids come and just I can't find anything 3540 02:39:07,610 --> 02:39:06,420 she rearranges the cabinets you know but 3541 02:39:10,429 --> 02:39:07,620 it's always nice when she's there 3542 02:39:13,670 --> 02:39:10,439 because uh the cabin's like super clean 3543 02:39:16,969 --> 02:39:13,680 and uh much more comfortable she makes 3544 02:39:18,650 --> 02:39:16,979 it homey right a woman's touch so for 3545 02:39:21,469 --> 02:39:18,660 those that have asked I'll be on that 3546 02:39:24,170 --> 02:39:21,479 land filming me building stuff as soon 3547 02:39:26,510 --> 02:39:24,180 as I possibly can I think one more month 3548 02:39:29,150 --> 02:39:26,520 and and I'll be over there 3549 02:39:31,130 --> 02:39:29,160 in the meantime I'll be at our current 3550 02:39:33,950 --> 02:39:31,140 cabin finishing off the ceiling bathroom 3551 02:39:37,309 --> 02:39:33,960 the bathroom ceiling and uh the bathroom 3552 02:39:40,010 --> 02:39:37,319 walls and a and a front porch and then 3553 02:39:42,530 --> 02:39:40,020 that cabin that I've spent I don't know 3554 02:39:44,389 --> 02:39:42,540 five years of weekends building 3555 02:39:45,650 --> 02:39:44,399 um and by the way this new one's going 3556 02:39:47,870 --> 02:39:45,660 to be a lot quicker it's not going to 3557 02:39:49,210 --> 02:39:47,880 take me years because now I know what 3558 02:39:53,809 --> 02:39:49,220 I'm doing right 3559 02:39:56,990 --> 02:39:53,819 and we want to thank you uh Chris De 3560 02:39:58,550 --> 02:39:57,000 mares for kind of generous 999 Super 3561 02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:58,560 Chat well thank you for your kindness 3562 02:40:04,070 --> 02:40:01,200 generosity and support of the show it is 3563 02:40:11,730 --> 02:40:04,080 much much appreciated thank you uh for 3564 02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:15,969 [Music] 3565 02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:20,160 crazy cash praise the cash 3566 02:40:26,570 --> 02:40:23,040 [Music] 3567 02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:26,580 May us all be as happy as that child is 3568 02:40:35,330 --> 02:40:31,200 when he sees us praising the cash right 3569 02:40:37,010 --> 02:40:35,340 yes uh Chuck bam well well uh now forget 3570 02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:37,020 about bear spray I'm gonna have a bear 3571 02:40:42,770 --> 02:40:39,200 gun right 3572 02:40:46,610 --> 02:40:42,780 bear spray yeah no no I'm gonna have a 3573 02:40:49,610 --> 02:40:46,620 big old gun right big Rifle right and uh 3574 02:40:51,770 --> 02:40:49,620 I had one encounter with a bear uh at 3575 02:40:53,630 --> 02:40:51,780 the other cabin and it was my fault but 3576 02:40:56,030 --> 02:40:53,640 I got between a mother and their Cubs 3577 02:40:58,969 --> 02:40:56,040 and the mother charged me 3578 02:41:01,370 --> 02:40:58,979 like got up on a tiny legs and growled 3579 02:41:04,670 --> 02:41:01,380 the loudest loudest growl I have ever 3580 02:41:08,690 --> 02:41:04,680 heard from an animal in my life like 3581 02:41:11,510 --> 02:41:08,700 it hit me in the face the the like this 3582 02:41:13,849 --> 02:41:11,520 thing just screamed at me at the you 3583 02:41:15,889 --> 02:41:13,859 know it was a mama bear and I was very 3584 02:41:18,170 --> 02:41:15,899 very close to its cub I didn't see the 3585 02:41:19,969 --> 02:41:18,180 cub and then the Cub came out and then 3586 02:41:22,490 --> 02:41:19,979 the mama bear was off in the distance 3587 02:41:24,889 --> 02:41:22,500 but she saw me so close to the cub and 3588 02:41:27,230 --> 02:41:24,899 freaked so the mama bear got up on her 3589 02:41:30,650 --> 02:41:27,240 hind legs and growled and then started 3590 02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:30,660 running it right towards me growling and 3591 02:41:35,090 --> 02:41:34,080 I almost [\h__\h] my pants and I ran to the 3592 02:41:36,650 --> 02:41:35,100 cabin 3593 02:41:38,570 --> 02:41:36,660 and my wife 3594 02:41:40,370 --> 02:41:38,580 I told her to get in the cabin when we 3595 02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:40,380 saw the Bears she gets in the cabin with 3596 02:41:46,370 --> 02:41:42,560 the kids she locked the door 3597 02:41:48,050 --> 02:41:46,380 so there's a bear chasing me down and my 3598 02:41:51,770 --> 02:41:48,060 wife locked the door 3599 02:41:53,570 --> 02:41:51,780 but I learned I was reminded of a very 3600 02:41:55,250 --> 02:41:53,580 important lesson I learned in Boy Scouts 3601 02:41:57,469 --> 02:41:55,260 and Cub Scouts which is you never get 3602 02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:57,479 between a mama bear and her Cubs because 3603 02:42:02,750 --> 02:42:00,479 that that mama's gonna kill you they're 3604 02:42:05,270 --> 02:42:02,760 very very protective as well they should 3605 02:42:06,410 --> 02:42:05,280 be but I learned my lesson and in the 3606 02:42:09,830 --> 02:42:06,420 future 3607 02:42:11,929 --> 02:42:09,840 um I I don't trust in just bear spray I 3608 02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:11,939 am going to have a bare siren at the new 3609 02:42:17,630 --> 02:42:12,960 place 3610 02:42:19,490 --> 02:42:17,640 and a bear gun so and by the way I never 3611 02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:19,500 want to just because I'm I'm sure I'm 3612 02:42:25,550 --> 02:42:21,600 going to get emails I never ever want to 3613 02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:25,560 shoot any animal but if there's a rabid 3614 02:42:30,170 --> 02:42:28,560 bear or a pissed off bear uh there's one 3615 02:42:32,389 --> 02:42:30,180 bear we see all the time I always feel 3616 02:42:33,950 --> 02:42:32,399 bad for him because he has a very bad 3617 02:42:37,250 --> 02:42:33,960 limp 3618 02:42:39,530 --> 02:42:37,260 uh he's a male Big Bear and uh he always 3619 02:42:41,270 --> 02:42:39,540 is kind of growly and pissed off but he 3620 02:42:43,490 --> 02:42:41,280 kind of growls and then he saunters off 3621 02:42:46,250 --> 02:42:43,500 like if he's in your garbage and you 3622 02:42:49,370 --> 02:42:46,260 yell at him he just you know 3623 02:42:52,309 --> 02:42:49,380 um but Bears can be very very dangerous 3624 02:42:54,950 --> 02:42:52,319 I if I have a firearm I will feel like 3625 02:42:57,290 --> 02:42:54,960 if there's a problem between a bear and 3626 02:43:00,290 --> 02:42:57,300 me I'm gonna win 3627 02:43:03,170 --> 02:43:00,300 um but I never you're in there 3628 02:43:05,809 --> 02:43:03,180 environment so I respect the Bears I I 3629 02:43:08,450 --> 02:43:05,819 like them being around and uh I will 3630 02:43:10,550 --> 02:43:08,460 never shoot one unless I absolutely 3631 02:43:12,469 --> 02:43:10,560 positively feel like my life is in 3632 02:43:14,030 --> 02:43:12,479 danger like that time I got charged 3633 02:43:14,690 --> 02:43:14,040 right 3634 02:43:17,270 --> 02:43:14,700 um 3635 02:43:19,130 --> 02:43:17,280 rent or buy a seat container after the 3636 02:43:21,770 --> 02:43:19,140 studio is built for use in storage or 3637 02:43:24,050 --> 02:43:21,780 bury it for a bunker yeah I have that on 3638 02:43:26,270 --> 02:43:24,060 my list Sandy Smith cargo containers 3639 02:43:28,190 --> 02:43:26,280 yeah there's a place not far from the 3640 02:43:30,590 --> 02:43:28,200 cabin that will bring a cargo container 3641 02:43:32,090 --> 02:43:30,600 and drop it right where you want it and 3642 02:43:34,130 --> 02:43:32,100 we're looking into that I even 3643 02:43:36,650 --> 02:43:34,140 considered building the studio at a 3644 02:43:39,770 --> 02:43:36,660 cargo containers and just lining it with 3645 02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:39,780 logs or something or log siding right 3646 02:43:44,330 --> 02:43:42,479 look out for dog man yes there's there's 3647 02:43:46,910 --> 02:43:44,340 believe it or not near my cabin they're 3648 02:43:49,070 --> 02:43:46,920 sightings of dog man and Sasquatches 3649 02:43:51,050 --> 02:43:49,080 right Eric The Awakening man was 3650 02:43:53,510 --> 02:43:51,060 supposed to come and go looking for 3651 02:43:54,889 --> 02:43:53,520 bigfoot with me sometime right I was 3652 02:43:56,809 --> 02:43:54,899 joking with him that we're going to put 3653 02:43:58,910 --> 02:43:56,819 up a separate little cabin and call it 3654 02:44:02,690 --> 02:43:58,920 like the Pennsylvania Sasquatch Research 3655 02:44:10,010 --> 02:44:06,830 put Jimmy to work on the cabin yeah 3656 02:44:12,110 --> 02:44:10,020 yeah my wife was a mama bear too yeah 3657 02:44:13,610 --> 02:44:12,120 I'd feel bad for anybody that threatens 3658 02:44:15,770 --> 02:44:13,620 my children because yeah she's a mama 3659 02:44:18,469 --> 02:44:15,780 bear she'll kill she'll kill somebody 3660 02:44:20,690 --> 02:44:18,479 that messes with her children 3661 02:44:23,150 --> 02:44:20,700 dog man I live in Michigan what about 3662 02:44:25,490 --> 02:44:23,160 cocaine bear I haven't seen that yet I 3663 02:44:27,530 --> 02:44:25,500 gotta see this cocaine bear I I heard 3664 02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:27,540 it's really good I don't think I'll be 3665 02:44:31,550 --> 02:44:29,040 seeing that one in the theater well 3666 02:44:33,530 --> 02:44:31,560 that's a wait for Netflix right I cut up 3667 02:44:36,170 --> 02:44:33,540 an ET I thought it was a deer ate it 3668 02:44:38,330 --> 02:44:36,180 anyway going back to bed going back and 3669 02:44:41,389 --> 02:44:38,340 get another where did I get going to bed 3670 02:44:45,530 --> 02:44:41,399 sorry going back to get another I have a 3671 02:44:48,650 --> 02:44:45,540 big freezer okay Dr Jonathan Reed right 3672 02:44:51,110 --> 02:44:48,660 lots of container stacking in China yeah 3673 02:44:52,730 --> 02:44:51,120 I think it's a great option especially 3674 02:44:55,849 --> 02:44:52,740 if you get a container cheap because 3675 02:44:57,349 --> 02:44:55,859 it's basically like a an already built 3676 02:45:00,770 --> 02:44:57,359 structure you just got to put some walls 3677 02:45:03,770 --> 02:45:00,780 up inside and I know somebody that has 3678 02:45:05,990 --> 02:45:03,780 a cargo container out in the woods they 3679 02:45:08,090 --> 02:45:06,000 just it's beautiful inside they just 3680 02:45:09,590 --> 02:45:08,100 haven't gotten to the outside yet it's 3681 02:45:13,190 --> 02:45:09,600 still a cargo container with some 3682 02:45:15,290 --> 02:45:13,200 windows cut in it and a door you know uh 3683 02:45:17,510 --> 02:45:15,300 but it still looks exactly like a cargo 3684 02:45:19,670 --> 02:45:17,520 container but on the inside he put up 3685 02:45:21,410 --> 02:45:19,680 beautiful nice drywall and walls and 3686 02:45:23,809 --> 02:45:21,420 insulation and it's heated and it's 3687 02:45:25,250 --> 02:45:23,819 furnished and it's beautiful he made a 3688 02:45:27,530 --> 02:45:25,260 beautiful little cabin there one cargo 3689 02:45:29,450 --> 02:45:27,540 container and I think he got the cargo 3690 02:45:33,710 --> 02:45:29,460 container for two thousand dollars so 3691 02:45:38,690 --> 02:45:33,720 it's it's a very good option right 3692 02:45:41,210 --> 02:45:38,700 Daniel Foster uh we don't share those on 3693 02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:41,220 the screen because YouTube doesn't like 3694 02:45:53,330 --> 02:45:50,330 Steve Nicholson has a 22 pound Tasmanian 3695 02:45:56,150 --> 02:45:53,340 poodle and that's enough for him oh yeah 3696 02:46:01,969 --> 02:45:59,450 bolstered from the trash can uh a drunk 3697 02:46:03,950 --> 02:46:01,979 Bear yeah maybe oh and by the way this 3698 02:46:06,830 --> 02:46:03,960 this 3699 02:46:10,190 --> 02:46:06,840 i i people are asking me if when or if 3700 02:46:12,710 --> 02:46:10,200 this uh chupacabra chupacabra and milk 3701 02:46:17,030 --> 02:46:12,720 fart thing is going to happen I don't I 3702 02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:18,830 I don't think that that's gonna happen 3703 02:46:23,330 --> 02:46:21,120 uh because now they're just arguing over 3704 02:46:26,330 --> 02:46:23,340 who canceled and how how many minutes 3705 02:46:27,889 --> 02:46:26,340 was it before he canceled and just to be 3706 02:46:29,210 --> 02:46:27,899 clear and by the way I just want to 3707 02:46:32,510 --> 02:46:29,220 point out I'm not siding with either 3708 02:46:35,630 --> 02:46:32,520 milk fart or tubacabra but 3709 02:46:37,670 --> 02:46:35,640 if you ask me chupacabra is uh is 3710 02:46:40,849 --> 02:46:37,680 ducking it because he said he would do 3711 02:46:42,650 --> 02:46:40,859 it and then 38 minutes later he timed it 3712 02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:42,660 he said oh I Have a scheduling conflict 3713 02:46:48,410 --> 02:46:45,600 I can't do it at which point I said okay 3714 02:46:50,210 --> 02:46:48,420 what about Monday and he didn't reply 3715 02:46:53,630 --> 02:46:50,220 for a whole day 3716 02:46:56,210 --> 02:46:53,640 and then I said uh I could do it anytime 3717 02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:56,220 this week meaning this week we're in now 3718 02:47:03,170 --> 02:47:00,240 12 noon to 9 p.m Eastern Standard Time 3719 02:47:05,570 --> 02:47:03,180 anytime you can do it and he has not 3720 02:47:07,610 --> 02:47:05,580 committed to doing it tubacabra has it 3721 02:47:09,650 --> 02:47:07,620 milk fart on the other hand said just 3722 02:47:12,170 --> 02:47:09,660 give me a date give me a time 3723 02:47:14,690 --> 02:47:12,180 I don't care when I'll be there 3724 02:47:17,450 --> 02:47:14,700 so the ball is really in his court 3725 02:47:19,550 --> 02:47:17,460 tubacabra if he wants to if he doesn't 3726 02:47:20,330 --> 02:47:19,560 want to do it you know I can't twist his 3727 02:47:22,010 --> 02:47:20,340 arm 3728 02:47:23,330 --> 02:47:22,020 I think 3729 02:47:25,370 --> 02:47:23,340 um 3730 02:47:26,690 --> 02:47:25,380 eventually we'll do a show we'll just 3731 02:47:27,889 --> 02:47:26,700 show all the evidence and by the way 3732 02:47:30,950 --> 02:47:27,899 there's a 3733 02:47:34,490 --> 02:47:30,960 somebody put up a presentation on all 3734 02:47:36,290 --> 02:47:34,500 this stuff on tubacabra and it doesn't 3735 02:47:39,349 --> 02:47:36,300 it's bad 3736 02:47:44,270 --> 02:47:42,349 third quotes close swing says oh quick 3737 02:47:46,370 --> 02:47:44,280 thoughts on Whitley's driver Steve I saw 3738 02:47:47,809 --> 02:47:46,380 a shock doc on Discovery it was well 3739 02:47:49,250 --> 02:47:47,819 made show not sure what to think of him 3740 02:47:51,710 --> 02:47:49,260 there was apparently tons of sightings 3741 02:47:53,630 --> 02:47:51,720 in that part of upstate New York I don't 3742 02:47:55,370 --> 02:47:53,640 know I'm on the fence with him I 3743 02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,380 interviewed him once and and here's what 3744 02:48:00,290 --> 02:47:57,359 I can tell you I liked him I liked him 3745 02:48:03,370 --> 02:48:00,300 as a person right I just liked him 3746 02:48:06,290 --> 02:48:03,380 um and at least about his original story 3747 02:48:07,969 --> 02:48:06,300 when he was telling me parts of it I did 3748 02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:07,979 not get the impression that he was like 3749 02:48:13,550 --> 02:48:10,800 making it up or that he was full of [\h__\h] 3750 02:48:15,950 --> 02:48:13,560 but he like most experiencers he has no 3751 02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:15,960 evidence he has a story 3752 02:48:21,290 --> 02:48:18,720 um and uh you know he did sort of make 3753 02:48:24,110 --> 02:48:21,300 aliens and UFOs as full-time living from 3754 02:48:26,090 --> 02:48:24,120 communion forward so that's a little 3755 02:48:28,070 --> 02:48:26,100 suspicious to me and I heard it he has 3756 02:48:30,290 --> 02:48:28,080 said a lot of wackadoo stuff 3757 02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:30,300 when I interviewed him we focused solely 3758 02:48:35,150 --> 02:48:32,640 on his original story and his original 3759 02:48:37,790 --> 02:48:35,160 encounter maybe we'll have him come back 3760 02:48:39,410 --> 02:48:37,800 and do another interview I would do that 3761 02:48:40,790 --> 02:48:39,420 let me know what you think in the 3762 02:48:42,290 --> 02:48:40,800 comments should we interview Whitley 3763 02:48:44,630 --> 02:48:42,300 Schreiber again 3764 02:48:47,929 --> 02:48:44,640 isn't cocaine bear based on a true story 3765 02:48:49,849 --> 02:48:47,939 oh God I hope so I hope so that would 3766 02:48:52,370 --> 02:48:49,859 make it such a better story if it was 3767 02:48:55,550 --> 02:48:52,380 based on a true story right 3768 02:48:57,170 --> 02:48:55,560 yeah in Canada there was a lady who's 3769 02:48:59,330 --> 02:48:57,180 scared off a mountain lion by playing 3770 02:49:03,170 --> 02:48:59,340 Metallica at it yeah they don't like Leo 3771 02:49:06,110 --> 02:49:03,180 noise and uh I have a siren on the top 3772 02:49:08,450 --> 02:49:06,120 of a pole uh or at least it's going to 3773 02:49:11,450 --> 02:49:08,460 be at the top of a poll at the other 3774 02:49:12,889 --> 02:49:11,460 cabin and that does two things one it's 3775 02:49:14,750 --> 02:49:12,899 going to let my neighbors know there's a 3776 02:49:17,510 --> 02:49:14,760 bear around and two it's going to scare 3777 02:49:20,090 --> 02:49:17,520 him off of my land you know generally 3778 02:49:23,889 --> 02:49:20,100 you make a lot of noise or you yell at 3779 02:49:26,690 --> 02:49:23,899 them and they they Saunder off you know 3780 02:49:28,490 --> 02:49:26,700 it's kind of surprising how slow they 3781 02:49:31,490 --> 02:49:28,500 walk though sometimes they're like what 3782 02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:31,500 are you yelling at okay and then they 3783 02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:34,560 slowly start walking away you know 3784 02:49:39,770 --> 02:49:37,920 and uh but it is it is it's an 3785 02:49:43,010 --> 02:49:39,780 interesting experience when the bear 3786 02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:43,020 walks through the camp at the cabin uh 3787 02:49:48,889 --> 02:49:45,840 there have been times where it wasn't 3788 02:49:51,530 --> 02:49:48,899 scary it was kind of majestic and 3789 02:49:53,330 --> 02:49:51,540 usually those times are when I'm inside 3790 02:49:56,450 --> 02:49:53,340 the cabin 3791 02:49:58,490 --> 02:49:56,460 having my morning coffee looking out 3792 02:50:00,349 --> 02:49:58,500 these big beautiful picture windows we 3793 02:50:02,750 --> 02:50:00,359 put in that living room Thin Lizzie 3794 02:50:04,250 --> 02:50:02,760 Borden and I see a bear just walking 3795 02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:04,260 through 3796 02:50:09,650 --> 02:50:06,960 you know off in the distance a little 3797 02:50:11,630 --> 02:50:09,660 bit that's when it's nice when you're 3798 02:50:15,290 --> 02:50:11,640 outside and the bear is five feet from 3799 02:50:18,290 --> 02:50:15,300 you suddenly unexpectedly that's not so 3800 02:50:20,690 --> 02:50:18,300 enjoyable of an experience right or when 3801 02:50:21,889 --> 02:50:20,700 a bear screams at you and starts running 3802 02:50:24,410 --> 02:50:21,899 towards you 3803 02:50:25,969 --> 02:50:24,420 that was scary that was truly one of the 3804 02:50:28,730 --> 02:50:25,979 most terrifying moments in my life 3805 02:50:31,490 --> 02:50:28,740 because I turned and ran 3806 02:50:33,170 --> 02:50:31,500 and I wasn't looking back because I was 3807 02:50:36,349 --> 02:50:33,180 so focused on running and putting 3808 02:50:39,530 --> 02:50:36,359 distance between me and the bear that I 3809 02:50:43,010 --> 02:50:39,540 did not know that essentially as soon as 3810 02:50:45,469 --> 02:50:43,020 I ran away from the Cub the the mama 3811 02:50:48,410 --> 02:50:45,479 bear stopped running towards me she 3812 02:50:50,150 --> 02:50:48,420 stopped at the Cub I kept going in the 3813 02:50:52,910 --> 02:50:50,160 other direction 3814 02:50:55,550 --> 02:50:52,920 um but in my mind I I was feeling like 3815 02:50:58,969 --> 02:50:55,560 the bear was right on my back like right 3816 02:51:01,610 --> 02:50:58,979 about to to get me you know it was very 3817 02:51:03,050 --> 02:51:01,620 scary experience and hopefully an 3818 02:51:04,610 --> 02:51:03,060 experience I won't have again because 3819 02:51:07,070 --> 02:51:04,620 I'm going to be a lot more respectful of 3820 02:51:08,690 --> 02:51:07,080 those bears and I have been a little 3821 02:51:10,670 --> 02:51:08,700 more mindful when I hear something 3822 02:51:12,710 --> 02:51:10,680 walking around in the woods now 3823 02:51:14,690 --> 02:51:12,720 when I'm working on the cabin or 3824 02:51:17,330 --> 02:51:14,700 whatever I go and check it out and then 3825 02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:17,340 I go okay it's just deer no problem okay 3826 02:51:23,210 --> 02:51:19,920 it's a raccoon no problem and generally 3827 02:51:24,950 --> 02:51:23,220 you get pretty good at I can tell now by 3828 02:51:28,490 --> 02:51:24,960 the by the sound 3829 02:51:31,250 --> 02:51:28,500 of a big animal and if it's a big animal 3830 02:51:32,929 --> 02:51:31,260 it's either a bear or it's deer those 3831 02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:32,939 are the only two things that make that 3832 02:51:38,030 --> 02:51:36,240 much noise walking through the woods so 3833 02:51:41,030 --> 02:51:38,040 I go and check most of the time it's 3834 02:51:44,510 --> 02:51:41,040 deer we have I don't know sometimes 20 3835 02:51:45,230 --> 02:51:44,520 deer a day walk through our our property 3836 02:51:47,389 --> 02:51:45,240 um 3837 02:51:48,950 --> 02:51:47,399 I don't mind a deer but I want to know 3838 02:51:53,269 --> 02:51:48,960 if there's a bear there so we've been 3839 02:51:54,950 --> 02:51:53,279 more um Mindful and uh just more a 3840 02:51:59,570 --> 02:51:54,960 little more cautious since that bear 3841 02:52:06,349 --> 02:52:03,110 I'm in Canada no bears on my land though 3842 02:52:09,170 --> 02:52:06,359 I'm on Pei it's an island 3843 02:52:12,889 --> 02:52:09,180 yeah I might move to Canada someday uh 3844 02:52:14,870 --> 02:52:12,899 don't bust a twitch uh I like Canada but 3845 02:52:17,330 --> 02:52:14,880 it's pretty cold but I got used to that 3846 02:52:18,590 --> 02:52:17,340 at my cabin you know my cabin is about 3847 02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:18,600 the same 3848 02:52:23,510 --> 02:52:21,359 eight months of winter you know or at 3849 02:52:25,790 --> 02:52:23,520 least six 3850 02:52:28,130 --> 02:52:25,800 he says he wishes he had Bears on 3851 02:52:30,170 --> 02:52:28,140 cocaine here though that'd be fun to 3852 02:52:32,510 --> 02:52:30,180 watch right 3853 02:52:34,570 --> 02:52:32,520 Whitley does man however I also believed 3854 02:52:37,550 --> 02:52:34,580 in Travis so I can't trust my intuition 3855 02:52:39,170 --> 02:52:37,560 uh there you go I think the vast 3856 02:52:42,050 --> 02:52:39,180 majority of people will not believe it's 3857 02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:42,060 true or not care the world won't end if 3858 02:52:47,630 --> 02:52:44,399 it's all true yeah I mean you got to go 3859 02:52:52,610 --> 02:52:50,630 Bobby has nightmares about bears 3860 02:52:54,950 --> 02:52:52,620 yeah I've never had a nightmare about a 3861 02:52:56,929 --> 02:52:54,960 bear I had a real life nightmare I 3862 02:52:58,969 --> 02:52:56,939 really thought I was dead I thought that 3863 02:53:01,429 --> 02:52:58,979 bear was gonna just like 3864 02:53:02,990 --> 02:53:01,439 you know how big the claws are even on a 3865 02:53:05,210 --> 02:53:03,000 black bear and by the way we don't have 3866 02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:05,220 big huge grizzly bears we have black 3867 02:53:09,769 --> 02:53:08,160 bears those are much smaller if you have 3868 02:53:11,570 --> 02:53:09,779 to get in a fight with a bear you want 3869 02:53:14,210 --> 02:53:11,580 to get in a fight with a black bear not 3870 02:53:16,730 --> 02:53:14,220 a brown bear or a grizzly bear or polar 3871 02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:16,740 bear you want to get in the fight but 3872 02:53:19,490 --> 02:53:18,000 there's still four or five they could be 3873 02:53:21,530 --> 02:53:19,500 four or five hundred pounds and their 3874 02:53:23,150 --> 02:53:21,540 claws are huge their teeth are huge and 3875 02:53:25,969 --> 02:53:23,160 they're vicious especially when 3876 02:53:28,849 --> 02:53:25,979 defending their children so uh 3877 02:53:33,010 --> 02:53:28,859 uh djg says he has a dear friend that 3878 02:53:38,269 --> 02:53:33,020 lives on Pei uh and that's in Canada 3879 02:53:42,650 --> 02:53:40,849 uh we'll take a few more comments or 3880 02:53:45,530 --> 02:53:42,660 questions from the live chat before we 3881 02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:45,540 bounce on out of here Tim Houston says I 3882 02:53:49,730 --> 02:53:47,760 think Whitley Schreiber is honest he 3883 02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:49,740 introduced rectal probes into pop 3884 02:53:53,090 --> 02:53:51,600 culture yeah he talked about that in the 3885 02:53:54,830 --> 02:53:53,100 interview like if I was making this up 3886 02:53:58,130 --> 02:53:54,840 when I talk about aliens putting things 3887 02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:58,140 in my ass and I was just like ooh or 3888 02:54:03,830 --> 02:53:59,760 something like that I'm paraphrasing but 3889 02:54:06,889 --> 02:54:03,840 it was pretty funny it was pretty funny 3890 02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:06,899 I have a Maine [\h__\h] that looks like a 3891 02:54:12,240 --> 02:54:16,490 hahaha 3892 02:54:22,550 --> 02:54:19,910 Grizzly bolted up 75 to 83 in-line Cliff 3893 02:54:24,769 --> 02:54:22,560 from start at least 35 to 40 miles an 3894 02:54:27,050 --> 02:54:24,779 hour yeah they're faster than they look 3895 02:54:28,790 --> 02:54:27,060 and they can have bursts of speed that 3896 02:54:30,530 --> 02:54:28,800 you're not expecting right 3897 02:54:31,969 --> 02:54:30,540 black bears are the punks of the Bear 3898 02:54:33,769 --> 02:54:31,979 World well like I said they're the 3899 02:54:35,990 --> 02:54:33,779 smallest bears so if you have to get in 3900 02:54:38,269 --> 02:54:36,000 a fight with a bear right 3901 02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:38,279 my last name is really Borden so it's 3902 02:54:42,830 --> 02:54:40,080 three level name that's pretty 3903 02:54:45,950 --> 02:54:42,840 interesting I thought that was uh you 3904 02:54:51,710 --> 02:54:45,960 know like an avatar online name not a 3905 02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:55,190 nobody Shadow banned you boy boy the 3906 02:54:58,790 --> 02:54:57,359 conspiracy minded nobody Shadow being 3907 02:55:01,370 --> 02:54:58,800 anybody in here 3908 02:55:03,590 --> 02:55:01,380 if they did I couldn't see your your 3909 02:55:05,570 --> 02:55:03,600 your uh 3910 02:55:07,670 --> 02:55:05,580 your your point good point on Whitley 3911 02:55:09,530 --> 02:55:07,680 yeah I don't know when I interviewed him 3912 02:55:12,349 --> 02:55:09,540 I just liked him but you know I really 3913 02:55:15,309 --> 02:55:12,359 like that book growing up and uh 3914 02:55:18,349 --> 02:55:15,319 and I had just watched the uh the movie 3915 02:55:20,450 --> 02:55:18,359 uh you know the communion movie 3916 02:55:27,769 --> 02:55:20,460 that was an interesting movie for sure 3917 02:55:32,030 --> 02:55:29,990 yeah 3918 02:55:34,190 --> 02:55:32,040 I'm just looking through the live chat 3919 02:55:35,870 --> 02:55:34,200 here make sure that we got all the uh 3920 02:55:37,929 --> 02:55:35,880 all the super chats thank you all for 3921 02:55:40,550 --> 02:55:37,939 your kindness generosity 3922 02:55:44,450 --> 02:55:40,560 have you included David Adair for 3923 02:55:46,429 --> 02:55:44,460 amusement yes yet yes neofutis pugilist 3924 02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:46,439 we did one show on him and how 3925 02:55:51,110 --> 02:55:49,200 ridiculous his stories were go to our 3926 02:55:52,670 --> 02:55:51,120 main Channel hit that little magnifying 3927 02:55:55,550 --> 02:55:52,680 glass to search bar and just put David 3928 02:55:57,170 --> 02:55:55,560 Adair in there and you can uh watch the 3929 02:56:00,230 --> 02:55:57,180 show that we did 3930 02:56:02,570 --> 02:56:00,240 third fake yes Patty I hear that new 3931 02:56:06,050 --> 02:56:02,580 movie is terrible I hear that's the 3932 02:56:07,790 --> 02:56:06,060 worst that's saying a lot people are 3933 02:56:10,370 --> 02:56:07,800 saying it's the worst Stephen Greer 3934 02:56:12,349 --> 02:56:10,380 movie ever I can't wait to see how third 3935 02:56:15,170 --> 02:56:12,359 phase of moon try to squirm out of that 3936 02:56:17,690 --> 02:56:15,180 one being shitty too because once is is 3937 02:56:19,910 --> 02:56:17,700 an accident like if you make one shitty 3938 02:56:20,809 --> 02:56:19,920 documentary you know maybe it's an 3939 02:56:22,370 --> 02:56:20,819 accident 3940 02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:22,380 but 3941 02:56:25,730 --> 02:56:24,720 if you make two in a row they're 3942 02:56:28,309 --> 02:56:25,740 terrible 3943 02:56:30,349 --> 02:56:28,319 that's a pattern right 3944 02:56:33,230 --> 02:56:30,359 they're gonna try to get they're going 3945 02:56:35,450 --> 02:56:33,240 to try to do the you know they're gonna 3946 02:56:36,889 --> 02:56:35,460 try to do the big money grab and get as 3947 02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:36,899 much money out of that as they can 3948 02:56:41,690 --> 02:56:38,640 before people realize that they're 3949 02:56:43,849 --> 02:56:41,700 making garbage third phase is garbage 3950 02:56:46,610 --> 02:56:43,859 they're making garbage 3951 02:56:47,769 --> 02:56:46,620 that isn't worth buying but I'm gonna 3952 02:56:50,210 --> 02:56:47,779 buy it 3953 02:56:52,010 --> 02:56:50,220 because I'm going to review it and then 3954 02:56:54,410 --> 02:56:52,020 those Clans are going to owe me I think 3955 02:56:56,210 --> 02:56:54,420 they owe me 13 right now I want my money 3956 02:56:58,990 --> 02:56:56,220 back for the last one it was so shitty 3957 02:57:04,190 --> 02:56:59,000 that I had to buy to review and who 13 3958 02:57:06,710 --> 02:57:04,200 for one to to for one documentary that's 3959 02:57:09,469 --> 02:57:06,720 what it cost on Amazon does anybody know 3960 02:57:11,750 --> 02:57:09,479 what the name of the uh of the third 3961 02:57:13,969 --> 02:57:11,760 phase documentary is 3962 02:57:16,250 --> 02:57:13,979 I'll look on Amazon right now and we'll 3963 02:57:18,950 --> 02:57:16,260 be able to tell how much uh it costs 3964 02:57:21,370 --> 02:57:18,960 it's like dawn of disclosure or 3965 02:57:24,830 --> 02:57:21,380 something I don't know Steven Greer 3966 02:57:29,030 --> 02:57:24,840 third phase of moon 3967 02:57:34,250 --> 02:57:31,550 uh count down to disclosure all right 3968 02:57:44,750 --> 02:57:34,260 we'll see how much it costs 3969 02:57:48,889 --> 02:57:47,269 oh this one only costs three dollars 3970 02:57:51,349 --> 02:57:48,899 all right 3971 02:57:56,590 --> 02:57:51,359 oh it's eight dollars to buy I always 3972 02:58:05,570 --> 02:58:00,670 starring cousins Dr Steven Greer 3973 02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:05,580 uh Michael Salas in this oh my God oh my 3974 02:58:09,650 --> 02:58:07,920 God we're gonna share this right now oh 3975 02:58:14,929 --> 02:58:09,660 I'm gonna rent this and we're gonna 3976 02:58:20,469 --> 02:58:17,690 countdown to disclosure 3977 02:58:24,110 --> 02:58:20,479 the secret technology behind the state 3978 02:58:26,269 --> 02:58:24,120 space for oh no that's the old one 3979 02:58:36,290 --> 02:58:26,279 what's the new one called 3980 02:58:39,889 --> 02:58:38,510 this one just Stars Brent cousins I 3981 02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:39,899 don't think this is one that he made 3982 02:58:43,010 --> 02:58:41,279 with them I don't know I'm getting 3983 02:58:45,230 --> 02:58:43,020 confused 3984 02:58:49,370 --> 02:58:45,240 uh 3985 02:58:53,330 --> 02:58:49,380 we'll just Stephen Greer 3986 02:58:59,750 --> 02:58:57,590 uh third phase see if we find it 3987 02:59:01,550 --> 02:58:59,760 above cop secret that's the one they owe 3988 02:59:05,510 --> 02:59:01,560 me 13 for 3989 02:59:10,790 --> 02:59:08,030 this one says it's from 2021 that can't 3990 02:59:13,969 --> 02:59:10,800 be it and we've already done this uh 3991 02:59:16,670 --> 02:59:13,979 Above Top Secret that was 2022. looks 3992 02:59:17,870 --> 02:59:16,680 like they're on a cycle of one shitty 3993 02:59:20,690 --> 02:59:17,880 movie a year 3994 02:59:22,250 --> 02:59:20,700 out of Steven Greer right I'm going to 3995 02:59:24,950 --> 02:59:22,260 check in with the live chat see if 3996 02:59:28,490 --> 02:59:24,960 anybody knows what is the new one called 3997 02:59:36,469 --> 02:59:31,610 UFO end game okay all right we'll see 3998 02:59:40,910 --> 02:59:39,050 end game to disclosure 3999 02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:40,920 see 4000 02:59:51,650 --> 02:59:49,490 all right 4001 02:59:54,230 --> 02:59:51,660 and let's see 4002 02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:54,240 Dr Steven Greer 4003 03:00:01,250 --> 02:59:56,880 uh but look look at this is interesting 4004 03:00:04,429 --> 03:00:01,260 here uh let me uh let me share my screen 4005 03:00:08,389 --> 03:00:04,439 this is interesting because it's 4006 03:00:11,990 --> 03:00:08,399 the title it's it's in the genre is 4007 03:00:13,130 --> 03:00:12,000 unscripted drama documentary It's a 4008 03:00:15,889 --> 03:00:13,140 drama 4009 03:00:20,809 --> 03:00:18,469 and it stars Dr Steven Greer Michael 4010 03:00:22,550 --> 03:00:20,819 schrat and James C Goodall how much you 4011 03:00:24,110 --> 03:00:22,560 want to bet that they recorded all this 4012 03:00:25,730 --> 03:00:24,120 [\h__\h] when they made the other movie 4013 03:00:27,830 --> 03:00:25,740 right 4014 03:00:30,230 --> 03:00:27,840 and by the way I heard that this was the 4015 03:00:34,250 --> 03:00:30,240 the shittiest one ever and they take 4016 03:00:36,110 --> 03:00:34,260 shots at Elizondo again right it's like 4017 03:00:39,290 --> 03:00:36,120 Dr Steven Greer complaining about 4018 03:00:42,170 --> 03:00:39,300 Elizondo soaking up too much of the uh 4019 03:00:44,809 --> 03:00:42,180 too much of the UFO money so they don't 4020 03:00:48,110 --> 03:00:44,819 like them oh there's Billy Carson it did 4021 03:00:50,690 --> 03:00:48,120 nothing says credible like using former 4022 03:00:53,990 --> 03:00:50,700 criminals in your UFO documentary great 4023 03:00:55,969 --> 03:00:54,000 job third phase of fake did you tell 4024 03:00:58,849 --> 03:00:55,979 your audience that that guy got arrested 4025 03:01:01,550 --> 03:00:58,859 for fraud related charges right and pled 4026 03:01:05,090 --> 03:01:01,560 guilty to fraud related charges real 4027 03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:05,100 credible guy to tell us about UFOs great 4028 03:01:09,110 --> 03:01:07,680 job third phase of fake and of course 4029 03:01:11,990 --> 03:01:09,120 I don't have anything against Michael 4030 03:01:13,849 --> 03:01:12,000 schrat or Jim Goodall but I just wish 4031 03:01:16,610 --> 03:01:13,859 that they both wouldn't work with these 4032 03:01:18,349 --> 03:01:16,620 clowns because it damages their 4033 03:01:20,210 --> 03:01:18,359 credibility 4034 03:01:22,490 --> 03:01:20,220 um and 4035 03:01:25,510 --> 03:01:22,500 I hope both of them wake up and realize 4036 03:01:28,070 --> 03:01:25,520 that you know working for these guys is 4037 03:01:30,830 --> 03:01:28,080 it's like you know it's like working for 4038 03:01:32,389 --> 03:01:30,840 Gaia TV it just confirms that you're 4039 03:01:34,070 --> 03:01:32,399 full of [\h__\h] if you work for them 4040 03:01:37,490 --> 03:01:34,080 because they're full of [\h__\h] 4041 03:01:40,849 --> 03:01:37,500 so uh yeah and uh 4042 03:01:46,610 --> 03:01:40,859 where's that I it's it's eleven dollars 4043 03:01:51,410 --> 03:01:49,610 I wonder if I we could do a watch party 4044 03:01:53,630 --> 03:01:51,420 I don't think so they'll probably 4045 03:01:55,309 --> 03:01:53,640 copyright claim us because wouldn't it 4046 03:01:56,990 --> 03:01:55,319 be fun if we had like 10 people on and 4047 03:01:58,070 --> 03:01:57,000 we all just watched together and made 4048 03:01:59,389 --> 03:01:58,080 fun of it 4049 03:02:00,830 --> 03:01:59,399 right 4050 03:02:02,570 --> 03:02:00,840 I don't think we could do that though 4051 03:02:04,370 --> 03:02:02,580 they'll copyright claimers they're claim 4052 03:02:05,929 --> 03:02:04,380 the copyright claiming people who play a 4053 03:02:11,150 --> 03:02:05,939 little clip from their YouTube channel 4054 03:02:15,110 --> 03:02:11,160 so uh yeah eleven dollars for another 4055 03:02:16,849 --> 03:02:15,120 garbage documentary that has according 4056 03:02:19,309 --> 03:02:16,859 to people who have watched it I have not 4057 03:02:22,370 --> 03:02:19,319 watched it yet but they've said no new 4058 03:02:25,190 --> 03:02:22,380 anything it's it's Stephen Greer walking 4059 03:02:27,769 --> 03:02:25,200 around Washington DC complaining about 4060 03:02:30,170 --> 03:02:27,779 his competition in the UFO space and 4061 03:02:32,210 --> 03:02:30,180 telling the same old stories that he has 4062 03:02:35,990 --> 03:02:32,220 told for 25 years 4063 03:02:37,510 --> 03:02:36,000 so same talking points I would say save 4064 03:02:41,630 --> 03:02:37,520 your eleven dollars but don't worry 4065 03:02:43,910 --> 03:02:41,640 don't worry I'm gonna use eleven dollars 4066 03:02:45,769 --> 03:02:43,920 of the show's hard-earned funds to 4067 03:02:47,630 --> 03:02:45,779 purchase it and watch it and review it 4068 03:02:50,450 --> 03:02:47,640 so you don't have to 4069 03:02:52,910 --> 03:02:50,460 yeah and isn't it great like what's 4070 03:02:56,210 --> 03:02:52,920 goofy going to say now right 4071 03:02:59,870 --> 03:02:56,220 what's goofy going to say oh well uh it 4072 03:03:01,969 --> 03:02:59,880 only sucks because uh uh uh they didn't 4073 03:03:02,950 --> 03:03:01,979 uh put in some of the stuff they want 4074 03:03:05,570 --> 03:03:02,960 you know 4075 03:03:08,870 --> 03:03:05,580 there's no excuse 4076 03:03:11,269 --> 03:03:08,880 for these money grabs these are this is 4077 03:03:13,670 --> 03:03:11,279 this is a money grab that's what this is 4078 03:03:15,469 --> 03:03:13,680 same old stories in a whole new 4079 03:03:17,389 --> 03:03:15,479 documentary with third phase of moon 4080 03:03:18,710 --> 03:03:17,399 it's a money grab 4081 03:03:20,690 --> 03:03:18,720 and 4082 03:03:23,630 --> 03:03:20,700 third phase of moon have met have made 4083 03:03:27,889 --> 03:03:23,640 millions of dollars pushing completely 4084 03:03:29,750 --> 03:03:27,899 totally fake UFOs on YouTube so part of 4085 03:03:31,490 --> 03:03:29,760 me if I don't want them to make millions 4086 03:03:34,190 --> 03:03:31,500 of dollars pushing the same old Steven 4087 03:03:35,630 --> 03:03:34,200 Greer stories for the fifth time right 4088 03:03:38,330 --> 03:03:35,640 what is this we're up to like five 4089 03:03:40,610 --> 03:03:38,340 documentaries from Stephen Greer all of 4090 03:03:43,790 --> 03:03:40,620 them basically the same stories right 4091 03:03:46,370 --> 03:03:43,800 it's like variations right and the last 4092 03:03:49,070 --> 03:03:46,380 third phase of moon piece of crap we got 4093 03:03:51,050 --> 03:03:49,080 new stories that involved Dr Stephen 4094 03:03:54,469 --> 03:03:51,060 Greer going on secret missions with 4095 03:03:56,269 --> 03:03:54,479 Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top Fame to a secret 4096 03:03:58,250 --> 03:03:56,279 underground base where they saw a 4097 03:04:00,590 --> 03:03:58,260 medical alien technology that could 4098 03:04:01,990 --> 03:04:00,600 regrow Limbs and tour people with Broken 4099 03:04:03,590 --> 03:04:02,000 Backs 4100 03:04:05,990 --> 03:04:03,600 wow 4101 03:04:08,269 --> 03:04:06,000 and we also got to hear Stephen Greer 4102 03:04:11,090 --> 03:04:08,279 lie about an entire company in Michigan 4103 03:04:12,830 --> 03:04:11,100 that got murdered for developing free 4104 03:04:14,990 --> 03:04:12,840 energy 4105 03:04:17,630 --> 03:04:15,000 we fact checked that that never happened 4106 03:04:19,849 --> 03:04:17,640 so third phase of moon in their last 4107 03:04:22,070 --> 03:04:19,859 documentary with Stephen Greer didn't 4108 03:04:25,010 --> 03:04:22,080 even bother to fact check the crap that 4109 03:04:28,010 --> 03:04:25,020 he said and they produced a documentary 4110 03:04:30,769 --> 03:04:28,020 full of lies congratulations third fake 4111 03:04:33,349 --> 03:04:30,779 of moon and uh 4112 03:04:35,030 --> 03:04:33,359 I'm sure I'm sure goofy will be telling 4113 03:04:37,969 --> 03:04:35,040 people to buy it and how great it is 4114 03:04:41,870 --> 03:04:37,979 right because he's got a he's gotta keep 4115 03:04:44,929 --> 03:04:41,880 licking third phase of moons butt right 4116 03:04:48,650 --> 03:04:44,939 in their buttholes to survive 4117 03:04:49,670 --> 03:04:48,660 Jesus geez yeah so we'll do that I don't 4118 03:04:52,250 --> 03:04:49,680 know 4119 03:04:55,849 --> 03:04:52,260 um I I promise you that I will I will 4120 03:04:56,769 --> 03:04:55,859 watch that this by sometime this weekend 4121 03:05:00,849 --> 03:04:56,779 um 4122 03:05:03,469 --> 03:05:00,859 so maybe we'll uh maybe we'll review it 4123 03:05:05,870 --> 03:05:03,479 uh sometime soon 4124 03:05:07,610 --> 03:05:05,880 um if I have time I'll I'll do it sooner 4125 03:05:09,110 --> 03:05:07,620 right so any more comments or questions 4126 03:05:11,330 --> 03:05:09,120 for me please put them in all capital 4127 03:05:13,550 --> 03:05:11,340 letters otherwise we are going to be 4128 03:05:15,889 --> 03:05:13,560 bouncing out of here 4129 03:05:17,750 --> 03:05:15,899 Greer will be making documentaries on 4130 03:05:20,990 --> 03:05:17,760 disclosure from the other side of the 4131 03:05:22,849 --> 03:05:21,000 veil yeah I agree and red brick 4132 03:05:24,889 --> 03:05:22,859 investigations holding down the twitch 4133 03:05:26,690 --> 03:05:24,899 chat thank you for being there says yes 4134 03:05:29,150 --> 03:05:26,700 I just finished Cooper's book last week 4135 03:05:33,110 --> 03:05:29,160 he seems pretty close on where we are 4136 03:05:35,030 --> 03:05:33,120 today yeah how little has changed right 4137 03:05:36,290 --> 03:05:35,040 they hold the pale horses a good book 4138 03:05:37,070 --> 03:05:36,300 but 4139 03:05:39,349 --> 03:05:37,080 um 4140 03:05:41,450 --> 03:05:39,359 you know the sourcing is what it is like 4141 03:05:43,130 --> 03:05:41,460 some of that stuff it's just stories so 4142 03:05:45,290 --> 03:05:43,140 you got to just trust the author is 4143 03:05:48,230 --> 03:05:45,300 telling you the truth and I don't know 4144 03:05:53,330 --> 03:05:48,240 uh you know but it's a well it's it's 4145 03:05:56,330 --> 03:05:53,340 it's a it's definitely a a must-have 4146 03:05:57,650 --> 03:05:56,340 book if you're into conspiracies and 4147 03:06:00,769 --> 03:05:57,660 things like that 4148 03:06:03,050 --> 03:06:00,779 aliens UFOs just even to know the 4149 03:06:05,030 --> 03:06:03,060 history right 4150 03:06:06,650 --> 03:06:05,040 I love they put Top Secret in these 4151 03:06:09,410 --> 03:06:06,660 things while broadcasting them to the 4152 03:06:11,150 --> 03:06:09,420 whole world so much secret that is your 4153 03:06:13,330 --> 03:06:11,160 function watch this crap so we don't 4154 03:06:16,510 --> 03:06:13,340 have to you're right that's my job now 4155 03:06:19,550 --> 03:06:16,520 willowy 13 and I I I take that 4156 03:06:22,070 --> 03:06:19,560 responsibility seriously right 4157 03:06:24,530 --> 03:06:22,080 uh 4158 03:06:26,690 --> 03:06:24,540 doesn't he also claim we never went to 4159 03:06:28,429 --> 03:06:26,700 the moon no I don't think Steven Greer 4160 03:06:30,530 --> 03:06:28,439 claims that he claims that when they 4161 03:06:33,590 --> 03:06:30,540 landed on the moon that everybody saw 4162 03:06:35,990 --> 03:06:33,600 alien spaceships and stuff right 4163 03:06:38,510 --> 03:06:36,000 Greer is Richard but 4164 03:06:40,870 --> 03:06:38,520 no he couldn't be because Richard butt 4165 03:06:42,830 --> 03:06:40,880 is two pro 4166 03:06:44,809 --> 03:06:42,840 Elizondo 4167 03:06:46,250 --> 03:06:44,819 Mark Toronto says come on Stephen the 4168 03:06:48,290 --> 03:06:46,260 poor guy shed a tear in the last 4169 03:06:50,570 --> 03:06:48,300 documentary yeah 4170 03:06:53,269 --> 03:06:50,580 I don't remember his Moon perspective in 4171 03:06:55,309 --> 03:06:53,279 the book oh William Cooper no I think I 4172 03:06:56,929 --> 03:06:55,319 think he said we did 4173 03:07:00,170 --> 03:06:56,939 I thought you were talking about Greer 4174 03:07:02,510 --> 03:07:00,180 I'm sorry yeah so we have done our due 4175 03:07:04,250 --> 03:07:02,520 diligence for today we want to thank you 4176 03:07:05,750 --> 03:07:04,260 kind and generous benefactors you 4177 03:07:08,030 --> 03:07:05,760 patreon supporters you twitch 4178 03:07:11,030 --> 03:07:08,040 subscribers your channel members use 4179 03:07:13,250 --> 03:07:11,040 super Chatters super sticker purchasers 4180 03:07:15,230 --> 03:07:13,260 oh that reminds me 4181 03:07:18,650 --> 03:07:15,240 um there's something weird going on 4182 03:07:22,670 --> 03:07:18,660 right now with YouTube where I could see 4183 03:07:25,210 --> 03:07:22,680 somebody named Shakira Rahman uh sent a 4184 03:07:27,950 --> 03:07:25,220 Kind and Generous 10 pound super thanks 4185 03:07:30,469 --> 03:07:27,960 for one of our David Wilcock videos but 4186 03:07:32,750 --> 03:07:30,479 it won't let me go to the video so that 4187 03:07:34,730 --> 03:07:32,760 I could thank you so big shout out to 4188 03:07:37,670 --> 03:07:34,740 Shakira Ramon for the kind and generous 4189 03:07:39,290 --> 03:07:37,680 super thanks and for those unaware you 4190 03:07:41,570 --> 03:07:39,300 uh you used to only be able to throw 4191 03:07:43,790 --> 03:07:41,580 money in our hat when we were 4192 03:07:46,550 --> 03:07:43,800 broadcasting live but now thanks to that 4193 03:07:48,050 --> 03:07:46,560 thanks button it's on all our videos you 4194 03:07:49,969 --> 03:07:48,060 can send us money if you're on the 4195 03:07:51,950 --> 03:07:49,979 replay crew or whatever you want to and 4196 03:07:56,210 --> 03:07:51,960 we appreciate all of you people sending 4197 03:07:58,010 --> 03:07:56,220 super thanks thank you Shakira Ramon for 4198 03:08:00,230 --> 03:07:58,020 kind and generous 10 pound super thanks 4199 03:08:02,750 --> 03:08:00,240 uh on one of our David Wilcock cover 4200 03:08:04,490 --> 03:08:02,760 card videos so thanks to all you kind 4201 03:08:06,950 --> 03:08:04,500 and generous benefactors thank you to 4202 03:08:08,870 --> 03:08:06,960 the chat room moderators and we want to 4203 03:08:11,030 --> 03:08:08,880 thank spooky for the excellent graphics 4204 03:08:13,870 --> 03:08:11,040 and we want to thank Bob Lazar Gene huff 4205 03:08:18,050 --> 03:08:13,880 and rest in peace John Lear 4206 03:08:20,990 --> 03:08:18,060 uh for providing this uh opportunity for 4207 03:08:23,030 --> 03:08:21,000 us to time travel back to 1995 and see 4208 03:08:25,130 --> 03:08:23,040 what the world of aliens UFOs and 4209 03:08:26,269 --> 03:08:25,140 conspiracies was like and what we 4210 03:08:29,090 --> 03:08:26,279 learned is 4211 03:08:32,690 --> 03:08:29,100 it's almost exactly the same fake 4212 03:08:33,769 --> 03:08:32,700 stories right unproven unverified trust 4213 03:08:36,050 --> 03:08:33,779 me dude 4214 03:08:37,610 --> 03:08:36,060 it was kind of uh 4215 03:08:39,650 --> 03:08:37,620 I don't know made me a little sad 4216 03:08:41,990 --> 03:08:39,660 because I was remembering those stories 4217 03:08:44,269 --> 03:08:42,000 when they were new and people are still 4218 03:08:45,650 --> 03:08:44,279 talking about all those stories uh and 4219 03:08:47,690 --> 03:08:45,660 nobody's proven that any of them are 4220 03:08:49,490 --> 03:08:47,700 true yet but people are still making 4221 03:08:50,929 --> 03:08:49,500 money off those stories isn't that 4222 03:08:53,389 --> 03:08:50,939 interesting right 4223 03:08:55,790 --> 03:08:53,399 but what are you gonna do uh this is the 4224 03:08:59,690 --> 03:08:55,800 way of the circus that we find ourselves 4225 03:09:02,269 --> 03:08:59,700 in so that's all we got for you I will 4226 03:09:04,250 --> 03:09:02,279 be putting up a Premiere again tonight 4227 03:09:06,290 --> 03:09:04,260 for that true Seekers percent so 4228 03:09:08,990 --> 03:09:06,300 probably up by like two o'clock in the 4229 03:09:11,030 --> 03:09:09,000 morning tonight I apologize for that 4230 03:09:12,710 --> 03:09:11,040 being screwed up totally my fault I 4231 03:09:15,110 --> 03:09:12,720 don't know how I cut off four minutes of 4232 03:09:17,870 --> 03:09:15,120 it I'm re-rendering it as soon as I 4233 03:09:19,670 --> 03:09:17,880 finish this broadcast and uh we'll be 4234 03:09:22,610 --> 03:09:19,680 uploading it and I'm just gonna do it as 4235 03:09:25,849 --> 03:09:22,620 an instant Premiere whenever it's uh 4236 03:09:29,690 --> 03:09:25,859 whenever it's ready uh rendered and 4237 03:09:31,849 --> 03:09:29,700 ready and uploaded uh and we will be 4238 03:09:33,530 --> 03:09:31,859 back tomorrow night at 9 00 PM Eastern 4239 03:09:35,630 --> 03:09:33,540 Standard Time and I've also got a couple 4240 03:09:37,849 --> 03:09:35,640 of other surprises in store for this 4241 03:09:40,130 --> 03:09:37,859 week for you I hope you will be here 4242 03:09:42,710 --> 03:09:40,140 tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern Standard 4243 03:09:45,230 --> 03:09:42,720 time I will be here with you no place 4244 03:09:47,269 --> 03:09:45,240 that I would rather be than right here 4245 03:09:50,150 --> 03:09:47,279 with you but our time is running short 4246 03:09:51,950 --> 03:09:50,160 now uh so 4247 03:09:53,870 --> 03:09:51,960 that's all I got for you friends until 4248 03:09:56,389 --> 03:09:53,880 next time my name is Stephen Camby and 4249 03:09:58,849 --> 03:09:56,399 good night and God bless all of you 4250 03:10:00,349 --> 03:09:58,859 especially you John Lear I hope you did 4251 03:10:05,700 --> 03:10:00,359 go into the light 4252 03:12:02,590 --> 03:11:25,929 [Music] 4253 03:12:38,050 --> 03:12:04,390 there you go 4254 03:12:51,349 --> 03:12:40,390 to me 4255 03:12:55,849 --> 03:12:53,090 current state of music is always 4256 03:12:58,490 --> 03:12:55,859 changing as we slowly Embrace a full 4257 03:13:00,830 --> 03:12:58,500 Digital Life Revolution uploading 4258 03:13:03,110 --> 03:13:00,840 acapellas drum beats and guitar riffs to 4259 03:13:05,870 --> 03:13:03,120 the world wide web from one Countryside 4260 03:13:08,330 --> 03:13:05,880 to the next it's an International Love 4261 03:13:09,650 --> 03:13:08,340 Affair and new music is our gift to the 4262 03:13:11,630 --> 03:13:09,660 Free World 4263 03:13:14,150 --> 03:13:11,640 a freedom of expression is only limited 4264 03:13:16,429 --> 03:13:14,160 by our creativity so we stand together 4265 03:13:19,190 --> 03:13:16,439 and because of it our forces are 4266 03:13:21,290 --> 03:13:19,200 unlimited we represent every corner of 4267 03:13:23,769 --> 03:13:21,300 the World As We broadcast our message 4268 03:13:26,269 --> 03:13:23,779 every country states 4269 03:13:29,740 --> 03:13:26,279 our supporters have expressed tremendous 4270 03:13:29,750 --> 03:13:33,050 [Music] 4271 03:13:47,770 --> 03:13:35,300 to the world 4272 03:14:02,510 --> 03:14:00,410 [Music] 4273 03:14:26,150 --> 03:14:02,520 foreign 4274 03:15:06,170 --> 03:14:38,630 [Music] 4275 03:15:06,180 --> 03:15:10,849 foreign 4276 03:15:10,859 --> 03:15:14,170 to the world 4277 03:16:27,309 --> 03:15:27,890 [Music] 4278 03:16:27,319 --> 03:16:31,590 thank you 4279 03:16:31,600 --> 03:16:49,210 [Music]